Grade this 1920 Pilgrim

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  1. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    Title says it all, really...

    Pilgrim 901 (Custom).jpg
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  3. C-B-D

    C-B-D U.S. Type Coins or death! Supporter

    Lots of tiny ticks, but wonderful luster. MS63
  4. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I agree. If it weren't for the luster then A 62
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  5. messydesk

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  6. kanga

    kanga 60 Year Collector

    Too much light is overexposing the high points making grading impossible.
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  7. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    I hear ya....

    The photos below are from the auction house, they are not as sharp, and was what I had to go on. I also have a set of pics with different lighting at home that I can post later. Both my other set and the auction's pics show zero luster, but the luster is very strong.

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  8. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    AU58 with perimeter and interior die cracks on the reverse. If they overlook the slight wear, MS63 with perimeter and interior die cracks on the reverse.
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  9. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    The die cracks are what make the coin. It's the FS-901 variety, and why I bought it.
  10. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    I'm going to add that I have been staring at this coin incessantly. I do see a break in the luster on the Pilgrim's cheekbone, but nowhere else on the obverse. On the rev, The mast *may* be showing a break in the luster, but I really can't tell.

    I was expecting a break in the luster on the corner of the Bible, as it looks like there is wear, but I still see luster there. I'm wondering if it could just be a slightly weak strike in that locale.

    When I was buying the coin, I was expecting AU58, but now that I have it in hand, I'm stumped.

    Why is it so much more difficult to grade your own coins then other people's?!?!?
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  11. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Yeah, good one. Cracks are always a nice, unique touch.
  12. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder

    Interesting coin, I see a branching die crack on the rev at NARY and the top of the mizzen. Grade? I'll guess 64, I think the vertical mark in the left obv field holds it back. looks like great luster.
  13. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    Where I thought I saw the luster breaks were on the corner of the book, the back of Pilgrim's upper arm near the shoulder, and the hull of the ship just below the shrouds on the main mast.
  14. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Variety Collector

    62 cool variety
  15. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    This is the other set of pics I took:

    pilgrim 901x (Custom).jpg
  16. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Variety Collector

    I think this i ages catches it best ...nice coin
  17. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    I can see it grading anywhere in the 58 to 64 range.
    I would personally call it an MS 63+
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  20. SilverMike

    SilverMike Well-Known Member

    I could see 58 to 62. Love the die cracks. This is one of my favorite designs. The withdrawn face of the pilgrim...the waves on the ocean. Well done.
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