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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 1004439, member: 19463"]I don't pretend to understand any of this but least of all do I understand a post suggesting a grade of MS with wear. Letting that go, the question is at what point in terms of wear are the advantages of being FH lost? If a really well struck coin somehow slipped into circulation back in 1917 (they spent them then) how far could it wear before you would no longer be able to tell that it was different from a sloppy strike with the same circulation history? AU? EF? </p><p><br /></p><p>I don't collect US but like SLQ's and would be happy to pay full melt value for any of the coins shown here that others have deamed worthless. The question is where a dipped MS63 FH and a NT non-FH cross price in the market - MS62? - AU?. You really don't know since the TPG folks wont touch what they consider to be cleaned coins leaving coins like this that are too nice for me and not nice enough for you. I know many of you consider both coins beneath your notice but there are those out there that would consider either an upgrade for their VF. </p><p><br /></p><p>Also because I do not collect US but have collected coins longer than there have been TPG pressures, I was shocked that the OP was surprised that a coin could show wear on the eagle feathers but not on the head. Long ago (pre-slab but after 1917) many of us kept coins in cabinets with sliding trays and round cut outs with cloth/flock linings on which the coins were laid. Most coins went into such accommodations heads up. Every time we opened the drawer, every time a garbage truck passed by, every time the early model central heating and AC units kicked in the vibrations caused the reverse of the coin to wear a very little bit. In ancients, we called it 'cabinet friction'. Considering the amount of 'picky' in today's market, the coin could have received this wear in one second when some 1917 banker slid it (face up and possibly in trade for half a roll of 1909SVDB pennies) across his desk pad or marble teller's counter even before it went in a felt lined tray to be jiggled for decades before someone sent it off for slabbing.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 1004439, member: 19463"]I don't pretend to understand any of this but least of all do I understand a post suggesting a grade of MS with wear. Letting that go, the question is at what point in terms of wear are the advantages of being FH lost? If a really well struck coin somehow slipped into circulation back in 1917 (they spent them then) how far could it wear before you would no longer be able to tell that it was different from a sloppy strike with the same circulation history? AU? EF? I don't collect US but like SLQ's and would be happy to pay full melt value for any of the coins shown here that others have deamed worthless. The question is where a dipped MS63 FH and a NT non-FH cross price in the market - MS62? - AU?. You really don't know since the TPG folks wont touch what they consider to be cleaned coins leaving coins like this that are too nice for me and not nice enough for you. I know many of you consider both coins beneath your notice but there are those out there that would consider either an upgrade for their VF. Also because I do not collect US but have collected coins longer than there have been TPG pressures, I was shocked that the OP was surprised that a coin could show wear on the eagle feathers but not on the head. Long ago (pre-slab but after 1917) many of us kept coins in cabinets with sliding trays and round cut outs with cloth/flock linings on which the coins were laid. Most coins went into such accommodations heads up. Every time we opened the drawer, every time a garbage truck passed by, every time the early model central heating and AC units kicked in the vibrations caused the reverse of the coin to wear a very little bit. In ancients, we called it 'cabinet friction'. Considering the amount of 'picky' in today's market, the coin could have received this wear in one second when some 1917 banker slid it (face up and possibly in trade for half a roll of 1909SVDB pennies) across his desk pad or marble teller's counter even before it went in a felt lined tray to be jiggled for decades before someone sent it off for slabbing.[/QUOTE]
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