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<p>[QUOTE="SuperDave, post: 2425794, member: 1892"]<b>Fantastic</b> images.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Unoriginal</b> surfaces.</p><p><br /></p><p>The brownish-red coloration directly adjacent to very dark color is an absolute red flag to someone who knows toning; that does not happen all at once in the real world. When you see that, you immediately wonder why the coin appears to have undergone the toning process at two different times in its' life, and this coin presents immediate evidence as to why.</p><p><br /></p><p>Note the areas McBlzr circled on the cheek (plus adjacent areas) and near stars 7-8. The metal looks literally eaten away in places, indicating to me it's has a <b>vicious</b> etching ameliorated. Perhaps verdigris, more likely PVC, was allowed to progress to the point where metal was actually removed from the coin. The places affected are precisely where I'd expect PVC to be able to progress, especially noticeable around the hair where it started in the low spots and worked its' way higher.</p><p><br /></p><p>The "conservator" then removed the infection - likely with the least-possible effect on the surrounding toning because they knew they'd have to re-tone the coin to achieve some salability from the result - and retoned it.</p><p><br /></p><p>I'd like to be wrong. I <b>hope</b> I'm wrong. But those patches of raw metal don't lend themselves to other easy explanations - planchet irregularities at the time of strike would not colorate much differently than the rest of the coin over this much time.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="SuperDave, post: 2425794, member: 1892"][B]Fantastic[/B] images. [B]Unoriginal[/B] surfaces. The brownish-red coloration directly adjacent to very dark color is an absolute red flag to someone who knows toning; that does not happen all at once in the real world. When you see that, you immediately wonder why the coin appears to have undergone the toning process at two different times in its' life, and this coin presents immediate evidence as to why. Note the areas McBlzr circled on the cheek (plus adjacent areas) and near stars 7-8. The metal looks literally eaten away in places, indicating to me it's has a [B]vicious[/B] etching ameliorated. Perhaps verdigris, more likely PVC, was allowed to progress to the point where metal was actually removed from the coin. The places affected are precisely where I'd expect PVC to be able to progress, especially noticeable around the hair where it started in the low spots and worked its' way higher. The "conservator" then removed the infection - likely with the least-possible effect on the surrounding toning because they knew they'd have to re-tone the coin to achieve some salability from the result - and retoned it. I'd like to be wrong. I [B]hope[/B] I'm wrong. But those patches of raw metal don't lend themselves to other easy explanations - planchet irregularities at the time of strike would not colorate much differently than the rest of the coin over this much time.[/QUOTE]
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