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<p>[QUOTE="Leadfoot, post: 624327, member: 2972"]I don't think I'm contradicting myself. I graded the coin on what I thought the TPG would grade the coin, not what I would grade it. Here's what I said in the PCGS thread (and correction, I (correctly) guessed VF 20, not 25):</p><p><br /></p><p><i>"From a TPG perspective, that coin probably has XF wear, but VF or F details, so I suspect NGC graded it closer to the details than the wear and guess VF 20. "</i></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one. While I agree the hair and ear are the high points in the design, you will note these details are missing from this coin -- and not by wear but weak strike, so we have to look outside the ANA grading guidelines for signs of wear as the high points weren't ever struck up. Looking at examples of these coins you will notice that the drapery starts to show wear on even AU draped bust half cents, and this wear is significant and visible on XF and VF coins. Don't believe me? Take a look at these examples:</p><p><br /></p><p>AU (slight wear on drapery):</p><p><a href="http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=20051&Lot_No=1001#Photo" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=20051&Lot_No=1001#Photo" rel="nofollow">http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=20051&Lot_No=1001#Photo</a></p><p><br /></p><p>XF (more wear on drapery):</p><p><a href="http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=20122&Lot_No=2001" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=20122&Lot_No=2001" rel="nofollow">http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=20122&Lot_No=2001</a></p><p><a href="http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=68101&Lot_No=61022" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=68101&Lot_No=61022" rel="nofollow">http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=68101&Lot_No=61022</a></p><p><br /></p><p>VF (significant wear on drapery):</p><p><a href="http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=390&Lot_No=19050" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=390&Lot_No=19050" rel="nofollow">http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=390&Lot_No=19050</a></p><p><a href="http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=390&Lot_No=19041" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=390&Lot_No=19041" rel="nofollow">http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=390&Lot_No=19041</a></p><p><br /></p><p>See how the drapery is worn down significantly more on each example? That's what I'm talking about.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Are you sure that's not just a weak strike, which is common for this date/die state, rather than uneven wear?</p><p><br /></p><p>Respectfully...Mike[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Leadfoot, post: 624327, member: 2972"]I don't think I'm contradicting myself. I graded the coin on what I thought the TPG would grade the coin, not what I would grade it. Here's what I said in the PCGS thread (and correction, I (correctly) guessed VF 20, not 25): [i]"From a TPG perspective, that coin probably has XF wear, but VF or F details, so I suspect NGC graded it closer to the details than the wear and guess VF 20. "[/i] I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one. While I agree the hair and ear are the high points in the design, you will note these details are missing from this coin -- and not by wear but weak strike, so we have to look outside the ANA grading guidelines for signs of wear as the high points weren't ever struck up. Looking at examples of these coins you will notice that the drapery starts to show wear on even AU draped bust half cents, and this wear is significant and visible on XF and VF coins. Don't believe me? Take a look at these examples: AU (slight wear on drapery): [url]http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=20051&Lot_No=1001#Photo[/url] XF (more wear on drapery): [url]http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=20122&Lot_No=2001[/url] [url]http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=68101&Lot_No=61022[/url] VF (significant wear on drapery): [url]http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=390&Lot_No=19050[/url] [url]http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=390&Lot_No=19041[/url] See how the drapery is worn down significantly more on each example? That's what I'm talking about. Are you sure that's not just a weak strike, which is common for this date/die state, rather than uneven wear? Respectfully...Mike[/QUOTE]
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