Grade my Triple Die Obverse newp - 1962D Franklin

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I am going to step out on a short limb here and say that aside from "key date" of issues, the Franklin Half issues IMHO is without question one which the TPG's over grade. If I were in the market, and considering this coin for purchase, I would be extremely adverse to paying anything close to FMV for this example. However, there will always be those collectors that buy the TPG grade, with little attention to the coin. Having this opinion doesn't make me correct in my grading. Wonder what Mark Feld opinions on this coin.

 

Be still my heart!

 

The hits on the face would never make a MS-63 IMO

The hits on the face would never make a MS-63 IMO. That plus a common (way to common) date/mint I would not want it at any price over silver.
The surface of the coin at 10 and 11 oclock does look suspect as to being wiped or scratched at some point.

 

I'm curious. Exactly what is the "wiped" and "at worst harshly cleaned" based on?

 

So it seems, a few more are coming forward with similar opinions.

 

I assure you, in hand observation shows this is not the case, Doug. And yes, I am sufficiently educated and experienced to be able to tell the difference.

 

I made it a point to study raw coins in my series very closely because I felt completely inadequate. I did this for several months and spent hours at it each day. I did so without viewing or referring to tpg examples. Having piles of raw uncirculated coins to look at really sharpened my eye. I guess you could say I forced myself to develop my own personal standard based on what I was seeing raw and reading. When I felt I had acquired a true and honest understanding I started really looking at slabbed examples and dealers coins more closely. You guys have said this time and time again...you want to learn how to grade....you look at lots of the same coins.

I think there are some similarities between this series and mine which is why I feel that I'm in a position to comment on this coin.

Contacts on the portrait, such as those seen here, would automatically rule out 65 in my book. Criss-crossing/inconsistant hairlines, such as those seen here (at least what I'm seeing), would be deemed "problematic" in my log. As far as I'm concerned, problematic ='s scrap. These are no-brainers for me, very obvious blemishes, I can't begin to understand how a TPG could deem this coin over 63 with those punches on the face, but I'm not surprised. When I find myself wondering where some hairlines came from that usually tells me something.... tells me to find a better example.

I hope I'm not coming across as a jerk. I just totally disagree with that grade.

 

I am by no means adept at grading coins, but my first response to this coins obverse was, no higher than a 63. Yes, it was the hits on the face that suggested that grade. Sometimes the TPGs get it wrong.

Bruce

 

Well, personally, I think it would be wise of you to learn the difference between "hairlines" and "die polish lines".

Hairlines would show up on the devices and the OP's coin clearly does not show any lines running across the devices.

 

I respect you for your knowledge and experience, Doug. But when you or anyone else is wrong, I call it like it is. Sorry, and thanks for your views on this matter.

 

Ms-63

 

This is a 65 Half.