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<p>[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 1073198, member: 15309"]That is a very cowardly way out IMO. If there are examples of gradeflation posted on this forum every day, then link some. If there is a marked difference in the standards prior to 2007 and post 2007 then it should be easy to prove by posting just a few photographs. I have never claimed that gradeflation doesn't exist. However, I have always disputed that it is caused by an intentional change in grading standards by the TPG's. My theory is that gradeflation is a function of the inconsistency inherent in the grading process itself. We have discussed this before and you are well aware of my opinion on the subject. To claim that I will make excuses while blindly defending the TPG's is a low brow tactic.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I have been collecting rare coins for about a decade. What I see is that the grading process has inherent inconsistencies that can't be eliminated. What I don't see are drastic shifts in grading standards by NGC or PCGS. I see coins in old slabs and new slabs all the time on Heritage and very rarely do I see a coin that my immediate reaction is that the coin is improperly graded.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Well you certainly can't prove anything to me if you don't even try. It seems that you would much rather everybody just blindly accept your opinion because you are Doug, because you are old and have been in the coin game longer, because you have 20K posts. And for most of the newbies on this site, that is good enough, but it isn't for me.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>If you don't think that both NGC & PCGS wanted to ensure that their coins had a higher percentage of CAC stickers than the other service, then you are the one being naive. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I completely agree that the members of both PCGS and NGC forums complain about the changing standards of the TPG's. And almost always the complaints are born out of frustration that their coins did not grade they way they expected them to grade. However, I have never seen any member of either forum prove that the TPG's intentionally changed their general grading standards. All I have ever seen is the examples of typical gradeflation caused by the resubmission process.</p><p><br /></p><p>I will admit however that there have been some notable changes to grading standards adopted by the TPG's. I firmly believe that the TPG's instruct their graders to be more lenient with key date coins. I aslo believe that they instruct their graders to make allowances for what they consider roll or cabinet friction. And yes, they have changed how they grade rainbow toned coins, much to my dismay. But if you want me to believe that in 2007, they told their graders to bump every coin up a half grade across the board, NO I AM NOT GOING TO BELIEVE THAT![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 1073198, member: 15309"]That is a very cowardly way out IMO. If there are examples of gradeflation posted on this forum every day, then link some. If there is a marked difference in the standards prior to 2007 and post 2007 then it should be easy to prove by posting just a few photographs. I have never claimed that gradeflation doesn't exist. However, I have always disputed that it is caused by an intentional change in grading standards by the TPG's. My theory is that gradeflation is a function of the inconsistency inherent in the grading process itself. We have discussed this before and you are well aware of my opinion on the subject. To claim that I will make excuses while blindly defending the TPG's is a low brow tactic. I have been collecting rare coins for about a decade. What I see is that the grading process has inherent inconsistencies that can't be eliminated. What I don't see are drastic shifts in grading standards by NGC or PCGS. I see coins in old slabs and new slabs all the time on Heritage and very rarely do I see a coin that my immediate reaction is that the coin is improperly graded. Well you certainly can't prove anything to me if you don't even try. It seems that you would much rather everybody just blindly accept your opinion because you are Doug, because you are old and have been in the coin game longer, because you have 20K posts. And for most of the newbies on this site, that is good enough, but it isn't for me. If you don't think that both NGC & PCGS wanted to ensure that their coins had a higher percentage of CAC stickers than the other service, then you are the one being naive. I completely agree that the members of both PCGS and NGC forums complain about the changing standards of the TPG's. And almost always the complaints are born out of frustration that their coins did not grade they way they expected them to grade. However, I have never seen any member of either forum prove that the TPG's intentionally changed their general grading standards. All I have ever seen is the examples of typical gradeflation caused by the resubmission process. I will admit however that there have been some notable changes to grading standards adopted by the TPG's. I firmly believe that the TPG's instruct their graders to be more lenient with key date coins. I aslo believe that they instruct their graders to make allowances for what they consider roll or cabinet friction. And yes, they have changed how they grade rainbow toned coins, much to my dismay. But if you want me to believe that in 2007, they told their graders to bump every coin up a half grade across the board, NO I AM NOT GOING TO BELIEVE THAT![/QUOTE]
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