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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1073169, member: 112"]Prove it ? Gimme a break Paul. I can't prove anything to you because you seem to refuse to allow your eyes to see. Examples are posted on this forum almost on a daily basis, yet you deny it. Experienced and respected collectors say the same thing I am time after time, yet you refuse to listen. People like Dave Bowers and Mike Fazzari write about it repeatedly in magazine articles, yet you refuse to believe it. And even if I posted 100 or 1000 pictures all I would hear is that you can't see the difference, or the pic quality is too poor, or it's bad lighting.</p><p><br /></p><p>You claim to have been collecting for a long time, have you no memory ? Have no eyes with which to see what is right in front of you ?</p><p><br /></p><p>Bottom line is Paul I can't prove anything to you because you will only believe what you want to believe.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p>I don't think that CAC impacted the TPG grading standards at all. The reason I don't think it had any impact is because CAC readily accepts the same kinds of things that NGC and PCGS accepts. Namely grade bumps being given for rarity, pedigree and toning. They, CAC, readily accept AU coins in MS slabs. They accept coins as 65's that 10 years ago would have been 63's. So how could they have had an impact ?</p><p><br /></p><p>And members on both the NGC and the PCGS forums complain on a regular basis that the TPG standards changed, that they got tighter or that they got looser. In the past hardly a week could go by that somebody on one or both of those forums wasn't complaining. If you took what they reported about grading standards in those 2 forums as truth then the TPGs have changed their standards over 100 times in the past 10 years.</p><p><br /></p><p>Don't believe me ? Go back and read the posts from 2000 on for yourself.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1073169, member: 112"]Prove it ? Gimme a break Paul. I can't prove anything to you because you seem to refuse to allow your eyes to see. Examples are posted on this forum almost on a daily basis, yet you deny it. Experienced and respected collectors say the same thing I am time after time, yet you refuse to listen. People like Dave Bowers and Mike Fazzari write about it repeatedly in magazine articles, yet you refuse to believe it. And even if I posted 100 or 1000 pictures all I would hear is that you can't see the difference, or the pic quality is too poor, or it's bad lighting. You claim to have been collecting for a long time, have you no memory ? Have no eyes with which to see what is right in front of you ? Bottom line is Paul I can't prove anything to you because you will only believe what you want to believe. I don't think that CAC impacted the TPG grading standards at all. The reason I don't think it had any impact is because CAC readily accepts the same kinds of things that NGC and PCGS accepts. Namely grade bumps being given for rarity, pedigree and toning. They, CAC, readily accept AU coins in MS slabs. They accept coins as 65's that 10 years ago would have been 63's. So how could they have had an impact ? And members on both the NGC and the PCGS forums complain on a regular basis that the TPG standards changed, that they got tighter or that they got looser. In the past hardly a week could go by that somebody on one or both of those forums wasn't complaining. If you took what they reported about grading standards in those 2 forums as truth then the TPGs have changed their standards over 100 times in the past 10 years. Don't believe me ? Go back and read the posts from 2000 on for yourself.[/QUOTE]
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