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Message:: [QUOTE="anderspud, post: 2328134, member: 76147"]I was trying to be realistic and bringing into play nasty things like scratches and appearances that might be objectionable to a buyer.  Specifically: 1930D Obv: Field and image have many specks that look like little holes.Rev: Lacks the markings of the Obv, but field is multicolored and there are scratches above and left of "U", a prominent scratch between "N" & "T", and scratches below AMERICA. 1931 Obv:  Image is sharp but both it and the field have many scratches.  Field shows vertical and horizontal scratches  behind head and squiguilly  lines in front of the face.  There are markings on Abe's forehead, upper cheek and nose.  Rev:  There are blatant scratches above and to the left of "O" and between "N" & "T", and markings below AMERICA. 1931S  Obv:  Excessive wear as evidenced by there being no mark between bow tie and lapel---that alone would disqualify an VF rating---and scratches in Abe's face.Rev:  Excellent but preempted by Obv. I do not see how these shortcomings could be ignored in a grading.[/QUOTE]