Got Wood?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by BadThad, Aug 13, 2009.

  1. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Not as dramatic, but I also got this one.
     

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  3. mas4492

    mas4492 Junior Member

  4. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    That is a sharp coin - and then some!!!!!

    Thad, still think 22-D's are all weakly struck?
     
  5. kangayou

    kangayou Junior Member

    WOW !!!
    Are you sure that 1922-D is real ?
     
  6. mas4492

    mas4492 Junior Member

    Thank you kindly for your comments.
    Yes, they come in all shapes and sizes.
     
  7. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Never said they all are. I recently sold one struck extremely well stuck with tons of beard and reverse detail. However, the vast majority are poorly struck.
     
  8. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Ever see a proof woody? You have now! :D

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  9. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    It would be interesting to see the result if you could get that reverse to tone a bit. If it does start to stripe, then we will know that the striping does not appear until the coin starts to tone. If it does not stripe, then you will have a one sided woodie.

    BTW, this may be the only later proof I have seen, but look at post #218 to see an MPL woodie.
     
  10. EyeEatWheaties

    EyeEatWheaties Cent Hoarder

    You might have missed this one? This is the opposite scenario. It is slabbed as a PCGS 65RB Maybe an end of the roll coin with the reverse exposed? What is strange that I would think with the super high res you would see the alloy mis-mix on the obverse??? I don't see it.


     
  11. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    It is not reverse vs. obverse, it is one sided versus two sided. See http://www.cointalk.com/t129494/. Also, there is another discussion about when these marks appear. Doug maintains that they are there when freshly minted and I maintain that they do not show up until the toning starts.

    BTW, I almost used you coin as an example of one sided striping except if you look closely, you can see the stripes on the obverse also.
     
  12. Tompkins316

    Tompkins316 Member

    I've been reading people in the roll searching thread finding woodies and I had no clue what they were talking about haha now I see!

    Guess I'm gonna go grab my wheatie bag and research them all so I can join the club!
     
  13. Tompkins316

    Tompkins316 Member

    How do you get the pics that big and clear???? My scanner must suck bad...or I just have no competence with adjusting it.
    (probably a little of both tbh)
     
  14. EyeEatWheaties

    EyeEatWheaties Cent Hoarder

    This Message Board is badly in need of a Photography forum. As digital imagery becomes more and more readily accessible - the questions consistently seem to be pouring in exponentially.

    I am happy to help and share because I am convinced that this is the future and that a lens can pick up far more than the eye and brain can process. There is another whole part to this and that is the interpretation of what you are actually seeing or not seeing in a digital image. For example, I think it is widely accepted that Hi res digital images make a coin look worse than it does in hand. In full resolution you are looking at my Lincolns at 50x - that is nuts! However I love them - but I also understand those certain anomalies.

    I am focused on Lincolns for the most part and while what I write should apply to all coins I think it is important to point out that I don't have 1/100th the experience with silver/nickel/gold that I do with copper.

    Photography as is grading a coin, an art. So one persons likes/dislikes may not be another's.

    First off. I am using PHotobucket Pro to host my images. I think it is about $25 per year. the pro account apparently does not change the original file when uploaded, if it does, it is not much. I have my link settings set to the largest resolution allowed which is 4000x3000 - I have coin compositions larger than that however I rarely post them.. These large images may slow peoples computers down and I have seen it mentioned over and over that they are resizing the forum width unacceptably to other members. I am pretty sure this is due their browser settings though I am not 100% about that .

    Second - my images are from a camera. I found that professional quality equipment can be bought used for a quarter of the new cost. I using a Canon 40d and Canon 100mm Macro lens.

    Third - I feel that the most important part of coin imaging, is that the coin must be viewed on a monitor through the camera with all the settings applied BEFORE the shutter is released. I set my lens to manual and crank the camera up and down to bring the coin into focus. I have my DOF set very very shallow - if I focus on the Lincoln high points the field are slightly out of focus and visa versa.

    Fourth - Lighting - is oh so critical to capture a coins attributes. this is where imaging a coin becomes an art. I use a 3 light set up and am careful to keep those lights in the same position - there are exceptions to that rule...

    I feel strongly that certain coins should be shown certain ways. I have my lighting set in a manner that I think is a good balance of capturing luster without hiding too much detail. For example: a same year/mint 65RD can have very different attributes than another same year/mint 67RD - For example I have 67RD that have more nicks and dings than a 65RD HOWEVER the 67RD has a far superior luster and in hand this becomes obvious but in a digital image those nicks and dings on the 67RD may be distracting. this is where knowledge of what you are actually looking at and interpreting that image gets confusing. What one person sees initially is not necessarily what another person sees/or looks for.

    So with all of that. a picture is worth a thousand more words. This is my set up - bought this fall - with no prior photography experience - learning what I could from the internet - for under 1k via the Bay. the coin on the monitor in the background is the coin under the lens. The lights to the right are included for discussion purposes - I don't use them.

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    I just noticed that I need to update my set up pic. That lens on that camera is not what I am currently using. That lens is a Nikor 35-70mm adapted to fit a Canon body with extension rings added for high magnification. (in case anyone notices) :)
     
  15. Shoewrecky

    Shoewrecky Coin Hoarder

    that is an amazing coin...what are you using to take your photos with, I have to ask!
     
  16. EyeEatWheaties

    EyeEatWheaties Cent Hoarder

    I really like them as do many others - they are a niche thing - TPG's often knock them down since the planchet quality is apparently used in grading. Impurities in the copper or poor mixing of the alloy is a bad thing.

    Welcome to the club! post em if you got em!
     
  17. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    EYE.....stop KILLING my IE...thought we discussed this? That's it..... I'm going to find you and hang you by a wet noodle now!
     
  18. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    My Indian arrived today. It has a bit more than just some stripes. I did not do a great job of capturing it, but most of the devises on the reverse are blue - bright blue. Maybe that is why it when to NTC.
     

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  19. blu62vette

    blu62vette Member

    Here is my only slabbed cent:

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  20. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I think all that one does is convince me that they purposely downgrade woodies. Nice coin!
     
  21. Tompkins316

    Tompkins316 Member

    @ EyeEatWheaties wowww that is an awesome set up...Definitely makes more sense to me now how you can get the pics.

    My sister actually has a Canon Rebel and I think she has a macro lens too...Looks like I might have to start being nicer to her lol
     
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