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<p>[QUOTE="keemao, post: 1941514, member: 43972"]Anybody else get this today?</p><p><br /></p><p>Hello My Dear Fellow eBayer. I am a buyer that purchased a Morgan Dollar from you on eBay (this message is NOT about the coin I bought from you)</p><p><br /></p><p>I am spear-heading an effort to create a new rule on eBay; where it would considered a "Listing Violating" equal to that of eBay's current standing "Raw and Uncertified Coins Policy" (which prevents all sellers from using an MS# for coins that have NOT been designated as such by a Professional Service)</p><p><br /></p><p>The letters DMPL, PL, DPL, SPL, ULTRA, DCAM or any other letter sequence which describes coins as being any specific variety of Proof Like. The main reason for this essential new rule (for it to become a standard policy) is 90% of the current sellers which have listings describing RAW coins, using the aforementioned lettered sequences, are buying certified coins (on eBay mind you) that were designated as PL by NGC and PCGS. This clear and defining proof can be found in the "feedback as a buyer" for each seller. It is there for all members to view, if one knows how to see it.</p><p><br /></p><p>How this scam works is as follows; after purchase these coins are liberated (by the buyer) from their certified holders. At that point the buyer becomes a seller, where they implement a very deceptive tactic to list/sell as RAW (un-certified) DMPL's (and by describing the coin as a "Monster" of some variety when it was already determined NOT to be a DMPL by a Professional Numismatist).</p><p><br /></p><p>The seller will also provide multiple doctored/enhanced photos to make the coin appear as a high grade/quality specimen. Just because a coin has a reflective surface does NOT make it a Mirrored surface. The coin must meet or exceed a list of standards defined by all professional grading services to be designated a lettered sequence Proof-Like Variety. If you think about it and look closely, just about every metal, in whatever form, will reflect light (especially coins). </p><p><br /></p><p>The only things you can do to help implement this new rule is by sending eBay an email (using their format or your own personal email account) and by calling their customer service where you can speak directly to a CS Support Leader/Manager and express your concern regarding this problem. I am not asking for your assistance, but for you cooperation, and together we can make eBay safer for us all where to buy the coins we love so much that are authentic and graded properly for which they truly are. </p><p><br /></p><p>This same letter is being sent to PCGS and NGC so they can help stop this deceptive selling tactic (which is a direct insult to them for who they are and what they do). I personally feel and do consider this behavior to be "Theft by Deception" and have been subjected to it many times and if you purchased a RAW DMPL on eBay you were definitely subject to it as well.</p><p><br /></p><p>Sincerely,</p><p>Clarence Cole</p><p>EDITED[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="keemao, post: 1941514, member: 43972"]Anybody else get this today? Hello My Dear Fellow eBayer. I am a buyer that purchased a Morgan Dollar from you on eBay (this message is NOT about the coin I bought from you) I am spear-heading an effort to create a new rule on eBay; where it would considered a "Listing Violating" equal to that of eBay's current standing "Raw and Uncertified Coins Policy" (which prevents all sellers from using an MS# for coins that have NOT been designated as such by a Professional Service) The letters DMPL, PL, DPL, SPL, ULTRA, DCAM or any other letter sequence which describes coins as being any specific variety of Proof Like. The main reason for this essential new rule (for it to become a standard policy) is 90% of the current sellers which have listings describing RAW coins, using the aforementioned lettered sequences, are buying certified coins (on eBay mind you) that were designated as PL by NGC and PCGS. This clear and defining proof can be found in the "feedback as a buyer" for each seller. It is there for all members to view, if one knows how to see it. How this scam works is as follows; after purchase these coins are liberated (by the buyer) from their certified holders. At that point the buyer becomes a seller, where they implement a very deceptive tactic to list/sell as RAW (un-certified) DMPL's (and by describing the coin as a "Monster" of some variety when it was already determined NOT to be a DMPL by a Professional Numismatist). The seller will also provide multiple doctored/enhanced photos to make the coin appear as a high grade/quality specimen. Just because a coin has a reflective surface does NOT make it a Mirrored surface. The coin must meet or exceed a list of standards defined by all professional grading services to be designated a lettered sequence Proof-Like Variety. If you think about it and look closely, just about every metal, in whatever form, will reflect light (especially coins). The only things you can do to help implement this new rule is by sending eBay an email (using their format or your own personal email account) and by calling their customer service where you can speak directly to a CS Support Leader/Manager and express your concern regarding this problem. I am not asking for your assistance, but for you cooperation, and together we can make eBay safer for us all where to buy the coins we love so much that are authentic and graded properly for which they truly are. This same letter is being sent to PCGS and NGC so they can help stop this deceptive selling tactic (which is a direct insult to them for who they are and what they do). I personally feel and do consider this behavior to be "Theft by Deception" and have been subjected to it many times and if you purchased a RAW DMPL on eBay you were definitely subject to it as well. Sincerely, Clarence Cole EDITED[/QUOTE]
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