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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2400481, member: 19463"]Yours is Lawrence 28 as listed in a booklet <b>The Paduans</b> by Richard Hoe Lawrence. IMHO that makes it a full fledged Paduan. There were other workers in the Renaissance cutting dies for replica sestertii or medallions which are not listed in Lawrence. Some are every bit as good as the Cavinos and I am unclear on how Lawrence separated the Cavino work from that of other workers.</p><p><br /></p><p>The BIG problem is struck original Paduans and other Renaissance replicas are outnumbered by cast copies of the originals. We call these copies 'aftercasts' and apply modifiers like 'early' and 'late' according to someone's opinion of whether the coin is a cast <b>or</b> a cast of a cast <b>or</b> a cast of a cast of a cast.... I would call yours an early aftercast since it has decent detail but I don't see it as a struck original. </p><p><br /></p><p>I have two. The Mars is a Lawrence 69 late aftercast.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]494582[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>The other is not listed in Lawrence but copies a medallion of Septimius and probably was done about the same time but is an after aftercast that probably spent tome as a pocket piece so it is hardly a high demand item.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]494581[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>My other non-Lawrence item is a sestertius (not a medallion) copying the Divus Pertinax sestertius. The cast was not made from a real Roman sestertius but from original die work of a later time (Renaisannce or later???). When things like this show up, they sell. All are fakes but there seems to be a time when collectors become more forgiving and we seem to have a soft spot (in heart or head?) for the 'Paduans'.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=232557" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=232557" rel="nofollow">https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=232557</a></p><p>The above is a struck example of your coin. Yours is not worth the same number.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=216188" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=216188" rel="nofollow">https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=216188</a></p><p>The above is an early aftercast of what CNG called a Cavino even though it is not in Lawrence. My pitiful coin is worth a fraction. </p><p><br /></p><p>The link below suggests someone in 1822 had a Pertinax (#5106) like mine but calling it a Paduan is a stretch.</p><p><a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=S5oIAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA420&lpg=PA420&dq=pertinax+paduan&source=bl&ots=UtGqFXTEce&sig=qQelAzaQioOcKXlFykY745e9unc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiv2aCP5ZbMAhVEkx4KHQhDAk8Q6AEILjAE#v=onepage&q=pertinax%20paduan&f=false" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://books.google.com/books?id=S5oIAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA420&lpg=PA420&dq=pertinax+paduan&source=bl&ots=UtGqFXTEce&sig=qQelAzaQioOcKXlFykY745e9unc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiv2aCP5ZbMAhVEkx4KHQhDAk8Q6AEILjAE#v=onepage&q=pertinax%20paduan&f=false" rel="nofollow">https://books.google.com/books?id=S5oIAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA420&lpg=PA420&dq=pertinax+paduan&source=bl&ots=UtGqFXTEce&sig=qQelAzaQioOcKXlFykY745e9unc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiv2aCP5ZbMAhVEkx4KHQhDAk8Q6AEILjAE#v=onepage&q=pertinax paduan&f=false</a></p><p>[ATTACH=full]494590[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2400481, member: 19463"]Yours is Lawrence 28 as listed in a booklet [B]The Paduans[/B] by Richard Hoe Lawrence. IMHO that makes it a full fledged Paduan. There were other workers in the Renaissance cutting dies for replica sestertii or medallions which are not listed in Lawrence. Some are every bit as good as the Cavinos and I am unclear on how Lawrence separated the Cavino work from that of other workers. The BIG problem is struck original Paduans and other Renaissance replicas are outnumbered by cast copies of the originals. We call these copies 'aftercasts' and apply modifiers like 'early' and 'late' according to someone's opinion of whether the coin is a cast [B]or[/B] a cast of a cast [B]or[/B] a cast of a cast of a cast.... I would call yours an early aftercast since it has decent detail but I don't see it as a struck original. I have two. The Mars is a Lawrence 69 late aftercast. [ATTACH=full]494582[/ATTACH] The other is not listed in Lawrence but copies a medallion of Septimius and probably was done about the same time but is an after aftercast that probably spent tome as a pocket piece so it is hardly a high demand item. [ATTACH=full]494581[/ATTACH] My other non-Lawrence item is a sestertius (not a medallion) copying the Divus Pertinax sestertius. The cast was not made from a real Roman sestertius but from original die work of a later time (Renaisannce or later???). When things like this show up, they sell. All are fakes but there seems to be a time when collectors become more forgiving and we seem to have a soft spot (in heart or head?) for the 'Paduans'. [url]https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=232557[/url] The above is a struck example of your coin. Yours is not worth the same number. [url]https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=216188[/url] The above is an early aftercast of what CNG called a Cavino even though it is not in Lawrence. My pitiful coin is worth a fraction. The link below suggests someone in 1822 had a Pertinax (#5106) like mine but calling it a Paduan is a stretch. [url]https://books.google.com/books?id=S5oIAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA420&lpg=PA420&dq=pertinax+paduan&source=bl&ots=UtGqFXTEce&sig=qQelAzaQioOcKXlFykY745e9unc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiv2aCP5ZbMAhVEkx4KHQhDAk8Q6AEILjAE#v=onepage&q=pertinax%20paduan&f=false[/url] [ATTACH=full]494590[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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