Gordian Medallion just a tad out of my price range

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Roman Collector, Nov 11, 2021.

  1. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    I am fond of some as well sir. I find there is some tremendous art being done the last 50 years. I simply seriously disagree with what the experts have determined "important" for much of it like Rothko, Pollock, etc. When you literally start throwing paint on a canvas, I am not stupid enough to think you knew where every dot would land. Its the work of a child or interior decorator, not art. I am glad some like Basquait are recognized though.

    I simply find it amazing that we can pay so LITTLE for ancient historical art pieces when art is so outrageous. Therefore I am more of a fan of buying what I buy.
     
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  3. GinoLR

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    I think it is precisely the purpose of contemporary art. What is art? Greek and Romans had a definition for fine art like painting or sculpture, it was supposed to be an "imitation of nature". But why was the imitation much more worthy of admiration than the model? And when the Ancients described and commented on a picture, it was always an ekphrasis, a classical school exercise of the time which was a speech telling the story behind the subject, who were the characters on the picture, what they were doing, saying, feeling, thinking... The way the subject was painted was not interesting at all, just good for amazing simple and ignorant people. See the "Syracusan women" of Theocritus who comment on the tapestries : "it's well woven!".
    Other definitions of art have been proposed since. The art of the icon which facilitates the contemplation of God in the Byzantine world, the figurative art as a sin for some people in the islamic world, art as the "quest of beauty" in modern Europa. Beauty... but must art be beautiful? Are the witches of Goya beautiful? Would you hang this picture in your living room?
    Then came all these artists of the 2nd half of the 19th c. who radically questioned realism, imitation, and the quest for beauty. Their art was totally different, and they were not accepted in the official exhibitions. Van Gogh could never sell one painting in his whole life ! Then came the cubists, the surrealists, all these people who did not give a damn about beauty, craftsmanship or even good taste... For many people Pablo Picasso is still synonym of "My 4-year old can do it!".
    In contemporary art the idea is all, and the work not that much. Street artists like Bansky mostly paint on walls that are just impossible to sell and buy. Sometimes he paints portable works that can sell for millions. But also one time he painted a dozen small pictures and, incognito, offered them for sale on a sidewalk in New York City, each for $60.00 ! An authentic original Banksy for $ 60.00, do you realize? and passers-by were just not interested, not knowing who he was, he just sold a few of them to tourists convinced they were buying cheap imitations of Banksy by an obscure broke artist, as a souvenir...
     
  4. Hookman

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  5. Heliodromus

    Heliodromus Well-Known Member

    Yes, and I suppose it's anyway futile to deny that something is art if others are willing to treat it as such, or to insist that they appreciate it on aesthetic rather than conceptual or other grounds.

    It's interesting how an artist such as Van Gogh can get so little recognition (at least, outside of his peer group) while alive, and only later attract such fame. Was it lack of exposure, or does it just take time and consensus for a legend to grow? His work, now at least, does seem quite extraordinarily brilliant, but how much of that is the work itself, and how much is again perhaps the idea - in this case the legend of the artist himself? Would most of us even stop to look at similar works if we saw them in a flea market as the output of some unknown amateur?

    Perhaps celebrity and art are more closely tied together than we'd like to admit. Celebrities, whether impressionist painters or TikTok stars, seem to provide a human need to connect and share common points of reference. We only have room for so many celebrities to rally around. It didn't have to be Van Gogh, Pollock and Charli D'Amelio, but that's just the way it worked out.
     
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  6. Heliodromus

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  7. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    Wow that bottom coin made my jaw hit the ground. Amazing city view and a dragon.
     
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  8. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    This is an abstract print by Alan Alldredge named "midnight storm". print cost $45.00 The frame and matting plus non glare glass $200.00 lol I really like it/enjoy it.

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  9. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I feel like $200 is a bit much, when you can get a Walmart frame for like $13.
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  10. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    Yes but, I work at Walmart and they do not look this nice. The mating works perfectly with this print. I did not mind spending more money to make this print pop.
     
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  11. GinoLR

    GinoLR Well-Known Member

    I buy frames only for old pictures, but not for contemporary ones.
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    (and I really should invest in a new stair carpet)
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  12. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    That is funny as hell
     
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  13. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    You members are funny
     
  14. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Hey Google what does does CHF stand for. Hey Alexisa. What does CHF stand for. Try it.
     
  15. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    He probably doesn’t even know. Lol. Just enjoying the day
     
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  16. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Hell. This John needs to stop. Kinda baited question
     
  17. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Thank you from me also for CHF
     
  18. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Your being unreasonable. Was a very Simple question.
     
  19. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Yep. I’m as dumb as a stump. I’ve never saw this problem before. We must be way out of are league.
     
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  21. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Good info
     
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