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Message:: [QUOTE="longnine009, post: 178521, member: 1886"]One of the marvels of today's 11 point Unc grading is that it blurs the line between dishonesty and honest disagreement. If a dealer dips an AU and palms it off on rube as an MS63 he's dishonest. Is a dealer that wants more money for an MS64 because he thinks it's really a MS65 dishonest? Or a collector that wants to pay less for the MS64 because he thinks it's really a MS63? In both cases it's only one point but may represent hundreds or thousands of dollars, there's bound to bad feelings on both sides.  Both buyer and seller are part of the observations, so how can either truly be "objective?"  They are both under the influence of being part of that which is being observed. This was the dilemma that "disinterested" third party grading was suppose to solve.[/QUOTE]