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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;wesdavidson, post: 593611, member: 18646&quot;]Safes. fun. Heavy metal. Shiny handles. Dials to turn. Buttons to push. Flashing lights. Beeps and whirrs. Black and gold paint. Who couldn&#039;t like them? </p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; My wife and I have been looking at them. here are a few things I have noticed, </p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; The UL site and other list several levels, </p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; California DOJ Firearms container&nbsp; - the basic stack-on gun safe, cylinder lock, 3 light locking rods, 16 -18 ga steel. About like a gym locker.</p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Residential security container, common gun safe, locking door, takes under 15 minutes to bust open with a pry bar etc, 11 - 14 ga steel usually. may be lined with sheetrock. </p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; TR15,&nbsp; thick steel door,&nbsp; 1/4&quot; walls, 15 minutes for their techs to open. Basic level for cash storage, drop safes.</p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; TR 30 thicker door and walls 30 minutes to open. basic jewler level safe.</p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; TRTL 15,30, or 60 minutes. Takes 15,30 or 60 minutes to open with tools and torches. </p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; TRTLTX&nbsp; tool, torch and explosives resistant. not certified at this time.</p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Fire resistant, ul 30 to 120 minute ratings, or private label ratings. </p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I have had friends with vault doors and cement rooms as well. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie6" alt=":cool:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I&#039;m not going to tell any secrets, anything I say about security is available on web sites. </p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Just wondered if anybody had observations or recomendations? </p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; The following safes are laying around, empty. We used them for a while. </p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; a basic sentry with a 3/16 door, I picked it up badly used, took 5 minutes to find a drill and sabre saw and 5 minutes to cut a hole in the bottom and open the door. -welded the bottom up, good as new. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie9" alt=":eek:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Little fire safe, thin steel shells, walls filled with plaster, obtained after it was stolen and the door pried off, wouldn&#039;t have been hard, the thickest steel was 1/16&quot;. we welded 3/16 and 1/4&quot; steel plates around the body and door, with heavy hinges and blocking lugs to keep it on, added 3 holes for padlocks in addition to the combo.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Converted electrical box, 1/8 inch steel box with heavy hinge and padlock eyes. </p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; File cabinet combination with a supplies cabinet, .040&quot; steel, cylinder lock on cabinet, small &quot;safe&quot; inside with 2 number combination lock. </p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I have seen a sentry, &quot;mini gun safe style&quot; that was in a fire, it worked, the papers were saved. :hail:</p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Last year a jewler in Salt lake was burgled, his gun safe was cut open from the side, lost $80,000. :crying:</p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We are impressed by American security safes, the ones with cement filled walls, any suggestions? </p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; we are also looking at old moslers etc.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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