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<p>[QUOTE="GoldFinger1969, post: 2078762, member: 73489"]<b><span style="color: #00b300">An SS Central America $50 Quintuple Eagle re-strike.</span></b></p><p><b><span style="color: #00b300"><br /></span></b></p><p><span style="color: #000000">There was tons of publicity about these coins when they were released in 2001. The 'Ship Of Gold' went down in 1857 and led to the Panic of 1857 (under a gold standard, rises or drops in the supply of gold led to expansions or recessions in the economy).</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">What I have here is actual bullion that was melted down and restruck in the image of the actual 1857 Liberty Double Eagles. </span><b><span style="color: #00b359">This is a 'Quintiple Eagle' with a face value of $50 signifying that it has about 2.5 oz. of gold (2.5 x $20 = $50</span></b><span style="color: #000000"> <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> ), compared to the normal approx. 1 ounce in a traditional Double Eagle</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">In late-2001/early-2002, the hype surrounding these coins was intense as some of you may recall. This wasn't a hyped up hoard like the Saddle River Hoard or Wells Fargo Saints, this was an actual historical ship that went down when trans-ocean journeys were still very perilous. The gold was recovered in the 1990's and after legal battles, went on sale.</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p><p><b><span style="color: #0000b3">But the premiums were astronomical for actual coins, including Liberty DEs, given the hype and publicity (documentaries on cable TV, etc.). </span></b><span style="color: #000000"> At the time gold was selling for about $300 an ounce and yet many 1 oz. coins were selling for 10-20x their gold content, depending on the specific coin, mintage, and MS grade.</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p><p><b><span style="color: #0000b3">The restrikes also sold at a big premium.</span></b><span style="color: #000000"> Even though it was NOT an actual coin on the SS Central America, the gold ingots used to make these restrikes were on the ship. So with 2.5 oz of gold, you had about $750 in gold bullion. <b>The cost ? $5,000 to get one !!!</b><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie9" alt=":eek:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">Needless to say, except for maybe the premium pieces that sold for 5 or 6 or 7-figures, virtually everybody who bought these coins new or for a few years afterwards is way under water. Even with gold going up 6-fold to $1,800/oz., very few transactions took place more than initial purchase prices or maybe 10% or so above.</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">I got mine a few years ago and paid about 11% premium to spot gold. Considering my local dealer charges about a 6% premium and I have some 1857 gold and a nice story to go with it and a 2.5 ounce coin, I think I did OK.</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p><p><b><span style="color: #ff0000">But let this be a lesson to any newbies reading this: </span></b><span style="color: #000000"><b><i>ALWAYS ask yourself why you are paying a big premium to the underling bullion content.</i></b> Hype wears off, both with stocks and coins. Someone else's loss was my gain, and with only an 11% premium to worry about, basically, I have a coin that is going to track bullion. And since I am happy with it and have no intention to sell, for me, it was a good deal.</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">If you had told the original buyers of the $50 restrike that gold would go up 6-fold in a decade, I think most would think their coins would have been worth at least $15,000 -- if not closer to $25,000 or more.</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p><p><b><i><span style="color: #ff0000">Caveat Emptor !!</span></i></b></p><p><b></b>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GoldFinger1969, post: 2078762, member: 73489"][B][COLOR=#00b300]An SS Central America $50 Quintuple Eagle re-strike. [/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=#000000]There was tons of publicity about these coins when they were released in 2001. The 'Ship Of Gold' went down in 1857 and led to the Panic of 1857 (under a gold standard, rises or drops in the supply of gold led to expansions or recessions in the economy). What I have here is actual bullion that was melted down and restruck in the image of the actual 1857 Liberty Double Eagles. [/COLOR][B][COLOR=#00b359]This is a 'Quintiple Eagle' with a face value of $50 signifying that it has about 2.5 oz. of gold (2.5 x $20 = $50[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=#000000] :D ), compared to the normal approx. 1 ounce in a traditional Double Eagle In late-2001/early-2002, the hype surrounding these coins was intense as some of you may recall. This wasn't a hyped up hoard like the Saddle River Hoard or Wells Fargo Saints, this was an actual historical ship that went down when trans-ocean journeys were still very perilous. The gold was recovered in the 1990's and after legal battles, went on sale. [/COLOR] [B][COLOR=#0000b3]But the premiums were astronomical for actual coins, including Liberty DEs, given the hype and publicity (documentaries on cable TV, etc.). [/COLOR][/B][COLOR=#000000] At the time gold was selling for about $300 an ounce and yet many 1 oz. coins were selling for 10-20x their gold content, depending on the specific coin, mintage, and MS grade. [/COLOR] [B][COLOR=#0000b3]The restrikes also sold at a big premium.[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=#000000] Even though it was NOT an actual coin on the SS Central America, the gold ingots used to make these restrikes were on the ship. So with 2.5 oz of gold, you had about $750 in gold bullion. [B]The cost ? $5,000 to get one !!![/B]:eek: Needless to say, except for maybe the premium pieces that sold for 5 or 6 or 7-figures, virtually everybody who bought these coins new or for a few years afterwards is way under water. Even with gold going up 6-fold to $1,800/oz., very few transactions took place more than initial purchase prices or maybe 10% or so above. I got mine a few years ago and paid about 11% premium to spot gold. Considering my local dealer charges about a 6% premium and I have some 1857 gold and a nice story to go with it and a 2.5 ounce coin, I think I did OK. [/COLOR] [B][COLOR=#ff0000]But let this be a lesson to any newbies reading this: [/COLOR][/B][COLOR=#000000][B][I]ALWAYS ask yourself why you are paying a big premium to the underling bullion content.[/I][/B] Hype wears off, both with stocks and coins. Someone else's loss was my gain, and with only an 11% premium to worry about, basically, I have a coin that is going to track bullion. And since I am happy with it and have no intention to sell, for me, it was a good deal. If you had told the original buyers of the $50 restrike that gold would go up 6-fold in a decade, I think most would think their coins would have been worth at least $15,000 -- if not closer to $25,000 or more. [/COLOR] [B][I][COLOR=#ff0000]Caveat Emptor !![/COLOR][/I] [/B][/QUOTE]
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