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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2990461, member: 24314"]Perhaps, [USER=20480]@ToughCOINS[/USER] has a point. However, [USER=23778]@sakata[/USER] is 100% correct. PM = "private message."</p><p><br /></p><p>When ANACS was founded in the 1970's and started discovering that counterfeit and altered coins made up a huge part of their business the Director and the ANA Board of Governors had a dilemma. What to do to protect the public. The service was already sending coins back as fakes but the submitters wanted to know why they were called bad. One powerful group said to keep everything secret as the diagnostics would get back to the counterfeiters.</p><p><br /></p><p>The other powerful group wanted ANACS to publish all the diagnostics.</p><p><br /></p><p>Note: It turns out (possibly as Toughcoins believes) the first group was correct. Just a year later, when the ANACS instructor told about fifteen students (and no one else anywhere) how to spot a very dangerous $10 Indian fake - about two months later the identical C/F's came in with the defect removed!!! We joked that one of the counterfeiters may have been in the class.</p><p><br /></p><p>The solution was to tell just a little. For example, I learned that NGC (and I suspect the other three) do just that even today.</p><p><br /></p><p>Unfortunately, this debate hardly matters anymore. This is why: From what I've seen/heard in class, the best counterfeiters don't need any help as they already have been making almost perfect counterfeit coins for several years! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>At this time, with the help of specialized collectors, the "perfect" counterfeits are eventually being caught. Anyway, I hope so.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2990461, member: 24314"]Perhaps, [USER=20480]@ToughCOINS[/USER] has a point. However, [USER=23778]@sakata[/USER] is 100% correct. PM = "private message." When ANACS was founded in the 1970's and started discovering that counterfeit and altered coins made up a huge part of their business the Director and the ANA Board of Governors had a dilemma. What to do to protect the public. The service was already sending coins back as fakes but the submitters wanted to know why they were called bad. One powerful group said to keep everything secret as the diagnostics would get back to the counterfeiters. The other powerful group wanted ANACS to publish all the diagnostics. Note: It turns out (possibly as Toughcoins believes) the first group was correct. Just a year later, when the ANACS instructor told about fifteen students (and no one else anywhere) how to spot a very dangerous $10 Indian fake - about two months later the identical C/F's came in with the defect removed!!! We joked that one of the counterfeiters may have been in the class. The solution was to tell just a little. For example, I learned that NGC (and I suspect the other three) do just that even today. Unfortunately, this debate hardly matters anymore. This is why: From what I've seen/heard in class, the best counterfeiters don't need any help as they already have been making almost perfect counterfeit coins for several years! :( At this time, with the help of specialized collectors, the "perfect" counterfeits are eventually being caught. Anyway, I hope so.[/QUOTE]
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