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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 8238393, member: 24314"]iontyre, posted: "Check out the 'I's in United and America on the 1854 $3. Notice both have an identical missing serif!! That would be very highly unlikely on a mint produced coin."</p><p><br /></p><p>Good Eye! We noticed this back in the day when some dealers questioned if we had certified a fake. We let them know that the counterfeit die copied that defect from a genuine coin. Unfortunately, I don't remember the date of that $3 (1857?). [EDIT: <i>I just checked. It was 1857 <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie50" alt=":happy:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></i>] What you have shown is that very often (in the old days) the counterfeiters used an identical die (side w/o the date) to produce coins with several different dates.</p><p>This was one way many C/F's were detected back then. For example, we found</p><p>fake $2 1/2 gold coins spanning several decades made with the same reverse die!</p><p><br /></p><p>[USER=88934]@CoinCorgi[/USER],</p><p><br /></p><p>I'm <b>not interested</b> in any of your "takes." That <i><span style="color: #b30000">may</span></i> be the reason I put you on "Ignore" sometime (<b><span style="color: #b30000">?</span></b>) in the past. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie46" alt=":facepalm:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie87" alt=":sorry:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p>I'm <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie30" alt=":bucktooth:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> the real <b>loser</b> here. It's unfortunate for me that for all that time (<b><span style="color: #b30000">?</span></b>) I missed out on <b><i><span style="color: #ff00ff">all your <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie26" alt=":bookworm:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> very informative </span><span style="color: #b35900">posts</span><span style="color: #ff00ff"> dealing with numismatics.</span></i></b> I consider you <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie33" alt=":cigar:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> to be a very important "foil" around here. I wish I had your talent for humor.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 8238393, member: 24314"]iontyre, posted: "Check out the 'I's in United and America on the 1854 $3. Notice both have an identical missing serif!! That would be very highly unlikely on a mint produced coin." Good Eye! We noticed this back in the day when some dealers questioned if we had certified a fake. We let them know that the counterfeit die copied that defect from a genuine coin. Unfortunately, I don't remember the date of that $3 (1857?). [EDIT: [I]I just checked. It was 1857 :happy:[/I]] What you have shown is that very often (in the old days) the counterfeiters used an identical die (side w/o the date) to produce coins with several different dates. This was one way many C/F's were detected back then. For example, we found fake $2 1/2 gold coins spanning several decades made with the same reverse die! [USER=88934]@CoinCorgi[/USER], I'm [B]not interested[/B] in any of your "takes." That [I][COLOR=#b30000]may[/COLOR][/I] be the reason I put you on "Ignore" sometime ([B][COLOR=#b30000]?[/COLOR][/B]) in the past. :facepalm: :sorry::( I'm :bucktooth: the real [B]loser[/B] here. It's unfortunate for me that for all that time ([B][COLOR=#b30000]?[/COLOR][/B]) I missed out on [B][I][COLOR=#ff00ff]all your :bookworm: very informative [/COLOR][COLOR=#b35900]posts[/COLOR][COLOR=#ff00ff] dealing with numismatics.[/COLOR][/I][/B] I consider you :cigar: to be a very important "foil" around here. I wish I had your talent for humor.:D[/QUOTE]
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