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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Insider, post: 7714858, member: 24314&quot;]medoraman, posted: &quot;<b><span style="color: #b30000">Sandy patina&quot; is not patina at all, and simply forces me to pay more attention to the real grade underneath</span></b>.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p>Amen to this!&nbsp; Dirt, and sand are surface debris.&nbsp; They have nothing to do with the actual surface - REAL PATINA.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>&quot;Sandy Patina&quot; is just another way to describe a&nbsp; <b><span style="color: #660000">DIRTY</span></b> ancient coin&#039;s surface - Just like &quot;smoothing&quot; is used to describe an altered design or surface.&nbsp; <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie85" alt=":smuggrin:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />&nbsp; In most cases it is done to make a coin more attractive.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>The best way to detect surface alterations (except for actual lessons from a top-notch coin doctor) is personal experimentation.&nbsp; That&#039;s why I want some red sand. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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