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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;maridvnvm, post: 7707771, member: 31620&quot;]Here is a coin that I bought back in early to mid 2000s from a seller called &quot;monneron&quot;. There was a lot of discussion at the time about whether the coins from this seller were real or not and then a separate discussion on their patination, which was generally this waxy, green with varying degrees of coverage and thickness.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10618/RI%20132ek%20img.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p>I have no reason to doubt the authenticity of the coin. It is stylistically correct and there are no signs of casting etc. Many however questioned the authenticity of the entire &quot;hoard&quot; / &quot;collection&quot; due to the nature and mix of coins being offered where there were simply too many scarce / rare varieties being offered. Others questioned the style of some coins. As a result of this many rejected the entire offering as &quot;fake&quot; whilst others came to the conclusion that if they are all fake then a master craftsman was at play producing many coins that were metallurgically correct and of correct style from a whole array of dies. Some dealers refused to entertain any coins with this patina whilst others accepted them as real.</p><p><br /></p><p>With regards to the patina... it may be an attribute of the find situation (chemicals in the soil for example) or as a result of the cleaning process. The patina doesn&#039;t bother me in this case as I removed part of it to find perfectly normal toned bronze beneath. It was not applied to hide anything and really didn&#039;t achieve anything if the intention was to enhance the look of the coin. I still have the coin as shown in the image above.</p><p><br /></p><p>I think that there are several pages online dedicated to these coins which come to a variety of conclusions. I seem to recall that some coins were authenticated by Sear (with full disclosure around the doubts surrounding the coins), others were processed by cgb.fr whilst others were provided by the seller to Frederic Weber for his analysis and opinion.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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