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Discussion in 'World Coins' started by robp, Jul 22, 2020.

  1. robp

    robp Well-Known Member

    7 for id please. I don't have any reference material for European jettons, and I'm not au fait with any of the other languages. Diameter of top left is 16mm and the middle one on the bottom row is 29mm. Weights of 3rd & 4th top row are 3.38g & 3.43g.
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  3. Hiddendragon

    Hiddendragon World coin collector

    Your last one is either Nepal or Tibet. Top second from left reminds me of coins from Malacca I've seen with the chicken.
     
  4. The Eidolon

    The Eidolon Well-Known Member

    Top L says "香港" = Hong Kong reading R to L on the bottom. Looks like some type
    of token maybe? Not quite a clear enough photo to make out the rest of the
    characters. Maybe a token? Doesn't look like an official release I've seen.

    2nd from Top L has an Arabic date: ١٢٣٧ 1237 AH = 1821. Not confident on the
    10s digit.

    For many of these coins if you could get a higher resolution picture so I can read
    the coin's text, we can probably narrow it down for you pretty quickly.
     
  5. The Eidolon

    The Eidolon Well-Known Member

    Found an auction listing of the goat token:
    It's a 5 cent token by Jonas Brook Hirst Co., undated but ~1870-1890.
    Looks like they are quite expensive in good condition.
    Here's one on eBay hong kong for ~$HK1000 = $US 130
     
  6. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

  7. willieboyd2

    willieboyd2 First Class Poster

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  8. The Eidolon

    The Eidolon Well-Known Member

    Think bottom R is a 1 paisa from Nepal.
     
  9. robp

    robp Well-Known Member

    Many thanks for the replies so far. The Nepalese one is a 2 paisa. I had it upside down as I thought it was a bird and not crossed khukris.

    Hopefully better images of the remaining 3. One looks French with the lis, but the legend doesn't make sense and appears to be the same on both sides. The other two look Indian(?).
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  10. The Eidolon

    The Eidolon Well-Known Member

    That looks like a Jerusalem cross on the copper with the Fleur-de-Lys.
    I know that's associated with the Duchy of Lorraine, as well as various
    Crusader kingdoms. Here's a similar design from the Kingdom of Naples.

    Edit: Here's a very similar French counter token. It's not identical, but the
    design is so close I bet it's a French token.
     
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  11. robp

    robp Well-Known Member

    Thanks. I suspect it's a gaming token or similar given the same legend both sides. A coin would almost certainly have two completely different legends.
     
  12. THCoins

    THCoins Well-Known Member

    The little one in your last photos is an Indian Bull & Horseman Jital issued under the rule of Delhi Sultan Rukn al-Din Feroz Shah. It is actually a quite scarce type as he only ruled one year (1236AD).

    Here's one that shows the design a bit better:
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  13. robp

    robp Well-Known Member

    Thanks :)

    I'm flying blind here. What are the standard references for things like this, and what is this coin's reference in particular?
     
  14. willieboyd2

    willieboyd2 First Class Poster

    One would need separate reference works for each of these different items.

    :)
     
  15. THCoins

    THCoins Well-Known Member

    For the Jital coin the standard works are:
    Tye's Jitals catalog : Type Tye#392.
    Goron&Goenka's Coins of the Indian Sultanates : Type G&G D097
     
  16. robp

    robp Well-Known Member

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