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<p>[QUOTE="GinoLR, post: 8057912, member: 128351"]The French had the same kind of problem with the English in the late middle ages, but it was not about some iconic work of art, it was about the whole kingdom!</p><p><br /></p><p>The Treaty of Troyes (1420) stipulated that the King of England would inherit the Kingdom of France at the death of the King of France Charles VI. When he died in 1422 the infant King of England Henry VI was declared King of France, which was confirmed by the Treaty of Amiens (1423) signed by the main vassals of the King of France, the Dukes of Brittany and Burgundy. </p><p>All this was <u>perfectly legal</u>. According to all laws in force at the time, the King of England was legally King of England and France. The fact that the French king Charles VI who signed the Treaty of Troyes was a mental patient didn't have to be taken into consideration. </p><p>Being now included in this new United Kingdom sparked outrage among a large part of the French, led by popular opinion leaders like Joan of Arc. "We want our kingdom back!" they said, and France was deeply divided between Burgundian remainers and Armagnac frexiteers. In the middle ages this kind of controversy was not resolved by a vote, but rather by an all-out war. Frexiteers finally prevailed, but it was not formally recognized by the English who stood firm on the legality of their right. For this reason the English Monarchy continued to officially claim the crown of France and include the French <i>fleurs-de-lys</i> in its official coat of arms until 1801, probably because there was no more crown of France to claim, the kingdom being now a republic. </p><p><br /></p><p>British monarchy's official coat of arms in 1423, 1800 and 1801 :</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1396410[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GinoLR, post: 8057912, member: 128351"]The French had the same kind of problem with the English in the late middle ages, but it was not about some iconic work of art, it was about the whole kingdom! The Treaty of Troyes (1420) stipulated that the King of England would inherit the Kingdom of France at the death of the King of France Charles VI. When he died in 1422 the infant King of England Henry VI was declared King of France, which was confirmed by the Treaty of Amiens (1423) signed by the main vassals of the King of France, the Dukes of Brittany and Burgundy. All this was [U]perfectly legal[/U]. According to all laws in force at the time, the King of England was legally King of England and France. The fact that the French king Charles VI who signed the Treaty of Troyes was a mental patient didn't have to be taken into consideration. Being now included in this new United Kingdom sparked outrage among a large part of the French, led by popular opinion leaders like Joan of Arc. "We want our kingdom back!" they said, and France was deeply divided between Burgundian remainers and Armagnac frexiteers. In the middle ages this kind of controversy was not resolved by a vote, but rather by an all-out war. Frexiteers finally prevailed, but it was not formally recognized by the English who stood firm on the legality of their right. For this reason the English Monarchy continued to officially claim the crown of France and include the French [I]fleurs-de-lys[/I] in its official coat of arms until 1801, probably because there was no more crown of France to claim, the kingdom being now a republic. British monarchy's official coat of arms in 1423, 1800 and 1801 : [ATTACH=full]1396410[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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