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Thats cool how these contest work.

 

kovu, you can answer now if you know it. You only have to wait 24 if you already are entered.

 

would it be the 1957B series? $1

 

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For camalov2 only

Back in the 1940's, people would take common cents out of their pocket and do this to them.


What is the specific reason for this?

 

The only thing I can think of is that it is an acid bath to make the coin look like it was on a different planchet. I don't think that is it though.

 

Close but alas no. It was an acid bath that made it this way but the reason that it was made this way was for vending machines. Take your penny and put it in some acid then presto! The vending machine thinks its a dime. This was before VM's read metal composition btw.

 

Interesting, seems like a lot of work for 9 cents. I guess back then it was worth more.


Next question-

Of all of the signers of the Declaration of Independence, which are found on coin or currency? List the people and at least one item they are on. Person who finds the most is the winner. 48 hours for guesses. (you can PM me your answers so you don't give anything away)

 

It's been the required 24 hours...

PM sent. :thumb:

 

Got it, I will keep your answers secret until the time is up.

 

48 hours have passed... :yes:

 

Here is krispy's answer:

Answers for contest: signatories of DoI on coin and currency
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Well you posted the next question to us yesterday at 01:59 pm and the required 24 hours have passed, providing me with a chance to PM my answers before 48 hours expires.

Of all of the signers of the Declaration of Independence, which are found on coin or currency? List the people and at least one item they are on. Person who finds the most is the winner. 48 hours for guesses. (you can PM me your answers so you don't give anything away) ​

This answer is going to be a BIG one, so here goes:​

This is sort of a trick question because most, but not ALL, of the 56 signatories of the Declaration of Independence do appear on coin or currency. Most outright appear in one of two engraved variations of John Trumball's famous painting of the Signing of the DoI which was used on the backs of various Series of $2 notes:​

• On the reverse side of National Bank Notes, Series 1875 $100 ("First Charter Period") [Fr-452 through Fr-463], the central vignette depicts some 47 people by my count, which, as mentioned above, is an engraving after John Trumbull's 'Signing of the Declaration of Independence (also referred to as, 'Thomas Jefferson presenting the Declaration of Independence to John Hancock at the Continental Congress') ​

• The engraving on the reverse of the NBN Series 1875 notes is similar but was reworked for the Series 1976-2003A Small Sized $2 FRNs. A small group of three figures was removed from the left most edge of the engraved vignette. The Small Sized notes only depict 43 people (by my count) in the reverse vignette.​

So, Going by some known facts from John Trumball's painting:​

The painting shows 42 of the 56 signers of the Declaration; Trumbull originally intended to include all 56 signers, but was unable to obtain likenesses for all of them. He also decided to depict several participants in the debate who did not sign the document, including John Dickinson, who declined to sign. Because the Declaration was debated and signed over a period of time when membership in Congress changed, the men in the painting had never all been in the same room at the same time. ​

The above quote from Wikipedia.org Trumbull's Declaration of Independence ​

Therefore we know that 14* people of the 56 signatories of the Declaration of Independence, were not depicted in the painting and by extension were not represented on the $2 vignettes based on the details of the painting. Those 14 not included in the painting are indicated as, "[not shown] in the following list, arranged by State:​

* List of the 14 unpictured signers [Wikipedia.org]​

The List of signatories unless marked [not shown:]​

Delaware

• George Read

• Caesar Rodney [not shown]

• Thomas McKean 

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Pennsylvania

• George Clymer 

• Benjamin Franklin 

• Robert Morris 

• John Morton 

• Benjamin Rush

• George Ross ​

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[not shown]


• James Smith [not shown]


• James Wilson 

• George Taylor [not shown]
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Massachusetts

• John Adams

• Samuel Adams

• John Hancock

• Robert Treat Paine

• Elbridge Gerry 

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New Hampshire

• Josiah Bartlett 

• William Whipple

• Matthew Thornton [not shown]


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Rhode Island

• Stephen Hopkins 

• William Ellery 

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New York

• Lewis Morris 

• Philip Livingston 

• Francis Lewis

• William Floyd ​



Georgia

• Button Gwinnett [not shown]


• Lyman Hall [not shown]


• George Walton 

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Virginia

• Richard Henry Lee 

• Francis Lightfoot Lee [not shown]


• Carter Braxton [not shown]


• Benjamin Harrison 

• Thomas Jefferson 

• George Wythe

• Thomas Nelson, Jr. [not shown]
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North Carolina

• William Hooper 

• John Penn [not shown]


• Joseph Hewes 

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South Carolina

• Edward Rutledge

• Arthur Middleton 

• Thomas Lynch, Jr.

• Thomas Heyward, Jr. 

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New Jersey

• Abraham Clark

• John Hart [not shown]

• Francis Hopkinson

• Richard Stockton 

• John Witherspoon 

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Connecticut

• Samuel Huntington 

• Roger Sherman 

• William Williams 

• Oliver Wolcott 

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Maryland

• Charles Carroll 

• Samuel Chase 

• Thomas Stone [not shown]


• William Paca​

Signatories of the DoI on U.S. notes:​

• Thomas Jefferson:
$2 notes (At least Six (6) separate series of $2 notes)​

• Robert Morris:
$10 Silver Certificates Series 1878 and 1880,
LTN $1000 Series 1862 and 1863​

• Benjamin Franklin:
$10 Refunding Certificates Series 1879,
$50 LTN 1874 to 1880,
Large size FRN $100 Series 1914 (red and blue seals), and
ALL small sized National Currency and FRNs Series $100 since 1929 to present.​

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Signatories of the DoI on U.S. coins:​

• John Adams:
2007 Golden dollar coin,​

• Thomas Jefferson:
Nickels 1938 to present,
2007 Golden dollar coin,
1903 gold Louisiana Purchase Expo commem,
1991 Mount Rushmore half dollar, and
1991 Mount Rushmore $1 dollar commems,
1993/94 Jefferson $1 dollar commem, ​

• Benjamin Franklin:
Half Dollars 1948-1963,
2006 Ben Franklin 'Scientist' Tercentenary $1 dollar commem and,
2006 Ben Franklin 'Founding Father' Tercentenary $1 dollar commem ​

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Read more: http://www.cointalk.com/private.php?do=showpm&pmid=327543#ixzz12U6q7U3z​

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Of course his amazing answer wins by default since no one else even sent me one

Ready for your question.

 

I just don't have time for these massive questions with school and such. Otherwise I would be right there with you Krispy.

 

Very well researched answer, kudos to the krisper

 

Thanks guys. :smile

I'll get to work on the next question for camlov2...

 

Sorry for the delay, busy weekend...

To be answered by camlov2 ONLY:

The 1991 Commemorative 0.29¢ 'Numismatics' U.S. postage stamp reproduced designs from four past issues of U.S. coins and Series of U.S. paper money.

What are were these coins, the Series of notes, along each denomination, shown on the stamp?

 

It looks like
a 1858? Flying Eagle cent
a Saint Laudens Double eagle (unknown date)
a 1902 $10 National Currency note
a $1 Unites states note from 1862-1917