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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;chrisild, post: 3075750, member: 39&quot;]Believe me, the pieces you list in the initial post are beyond my personal line. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> But where one draws it, that is an individual question or decision. For some, even the last couple of US presidential dollars are not &quot;really&quot; coins, as they were made for collectors only. Others will argue that, with a little bit of good will <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> , you can use them to make payments.</p><p><br /></p><p>Many &quot;coin issuing entities&quot; have become pretty good at marketing and selling collector coins that are quite (or absolutely) unlikely to ever show up in circulation. And many or most mints are supposed to generate a profit. Besides, there is no strict dividing line anyway: The proof version of a &quot;regular&quot; coin cannot be had at face value but will usually be accepted at stores etc. while a silver collector coin issued at face will not.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here in the euro area we have a fairly clear distinction: There are circulation coins, commemorative (€2) coins, and country-specific collector coins - see <a href="https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/info/files/1.1_types_of_euro_coins_-_pdf_with_updated_design.pdf" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/info/files/1.1_types_of_euro_coins_-_pdf_with_updated_design.pdf" rel="nofollow">here</a> (PDF). And yet even some €2 commems are issued in surcharged coin cards only. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie47" alt=":greedy:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p>Some &quot;odd&quot; collector coins, be they from Canada or the Cook Islands, have interesting new features, and we may consider them to be designers playgrounds. Some features (Germany for example has a series of collector coins with a translucent color polymer ring) may even make it to &quot;regular&quot; coins one day. Others will continue to be gimmicks.</p><p><br /></p><p>There is that good old saying about somebody&#039;s trash being somebody else&#039;s treasure. Again, no strict dividing line. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Christian[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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