Ghengis Khan/ Al-Nasir AE dirhem

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  1. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    I got these two coins in a large lot and know nothing about them other than the information that came with them. Does anyone have the references below, or different references that can verify this info? Plus, do I have the obverse and reverse right and the correct orientation? thank you


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    Mongol Empire
    Ghengis Khan
    A.D. 1206- 1227
    Ӕ Dirhem
    16mm 4.1gm
    OBV: “Just Coin of the Khagan, The Supreme”
    REV: Nasir La-Din Allah Commander of the Faithful”
    Thomas 20; Sourdel 593; BMC X, pg 83, 11.
     
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  3. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    I know nothing about Mongol coins but it would be pretty cool to have something from Genghis Khan :)

    Similar coins found online are not consistent in terms of obverse and reverse. Some show them as you've presented the coins, others with the sides switched.

    Your reverse images are upside down.

    An example from CNG's archives:

    http://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=306711

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    ISLAMIC, Mongols. Great Khans. temp. Chingiz (Genghis). AH 602-624 / AD 1206-1227. BI Jital (16mm, 4.16 g, 3h). Ghazna mint. Undated, struck circa 1221-1222. Nyamaa 5; Tye 329; Album 1969; ICV 1946.

    Here's an article that touches on Mongol coins:

    http://www.coinweek.com/expert-columns/mike-markowitz/coinweek-ancient-coin-series-coinage-mongols/

    A reference work is mentioned in the article:

    "The only comprehensive modern catalog of the coinage of the Mongol Khans is Nyamaa (2005) a privately-published, bilingual English/Mongolian edition (the English is a bit rough). Apparently it’s out of print, but copies can be found for $85-100."

    There are several CoinTalk collectors who are probably knowledgable in this area. Hopefully one of them will chime in :)
     
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  4. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

  5. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    @Victor_Clark nice score in a large lot!

    I don't have the best example, but I do enjoy my Genghiz Khan...

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    Great Mongols, Genghis (Chingiz) Khan,
    AH 603-624/ AD 1206-1227,
    AE Jital (4.12gm, 2h),
    Ghazna type, undated, citing Genghis as Khaqan and
    citing on the reverse, the 'Abbasid caliph al-Nasir. O: 'adl / khaqan / al-a'zam("the Just and Supreme Khaqan" or "Just [coin] of the Supreme Khaqan"). R: al-Nasir / li-Din Allah / amir al-mu- / -minin ("al-Nasir li-Din Allah, commander of the faithful").
    SICA-9, 1008; Tye 329; Album 1969
     
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  6. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    just a little something...
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  7. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    I'd LOVE to have a coin of Genghis Khan!!
     
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  8. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    Rough styled, attractive coins!
     
  9. Quant.Geek

    Quant.Geek Well-Known Member

    Here is the full attribution with my coin with the correct orientation:

    Great Mongols: Chingiz Khan (1206-1227) AE Jital, Ghazna (Album-1969; Nyamaa-5; SICA 9, 1008; SNA Tübingen XIVd, 651-3; Tye-329)

    Obv: Arabic legend in three lines; الاعظم خاقان العادل (The Just, Supreme Khan)
    Rev: Arabic laqab of caliph al-Nasir in four lines; الناصر لدين الله أمير المؤمنين (Defender of the Faith, Commander of the Faithful)

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