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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Aleph, post: 4008361, member: 89969&quot;]I have seen several cases of probable abuse of online bids lately.&nbsp; For example, in a Bertolami auction I did an experiment where for a stretch of lots I placed prebids on some and live (online) bids for the others.&nbsp; Every prebid was raised to one step below my max bid.&nbsp; All live bids sold at the actual opening bid.&nbsp; I was the only bidder on this stretch as far as I could tell.&nbsp; Verdict does not look good for bertolami and fairness.&nbsp; Leu sure looked like they we’re screwing me also.&nbsp; I bid strongly on four or so lots in a recent auction.&nbsp; Everyone got bumped up to nearly my max in the last second.&nbsp; Coincidence?&nbsp; Can’t rule that out but it sure looked suspicious.&nbsp; Just to test the observation, on another lot in the leu auction that was comparable, I bid fairly lowish.&nbsp; Same thing happened.&nbsp; It got bumped up to nearly the max bid in the last second.&nbsp; Thing was, my bid was on the low side so I expected to get blown away, but nope my bid just got maxed.&nbsp; Makes me hesitate strongly to bid in their auctions.&nbsp; You put bids in based on the estimate that they won’t all get maxed or raised.&nbsp; If there is actual competition, ok that’s fair but what’s not is to max out every bid without competition.&nbsp; Neither of these cases is proven but at this point, I go with what seems likely.&nbsp; For bertolami, only bid live.&nbsp; For leu, choose your battles very carefully unless you have deep pockets.&nbsp; As a second observation, Biddr based auctions seem to be quite fair/on the level as far as my experience goes.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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