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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Ryro, post: 8317385, member: 91461&quot;]Pausanius couldn&#039;t have gotten it more right. After the humble, hardworking and highly skilled statesman Philopoemen (253-183 BCE) left the scene, a few death throws from Macedon aside, Greece became a footnote to Roman history.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1472761[/ATTACH]</p><p>(Philopoemen refused to let the Romans dictate what the Achaean League would and wouldn&#039;t do)</p><p><br /></p><p>Reading Plutarch&#039;s Lives and Polybius and have been so deflated about the amount of ancient coinage vs praise for this Strategos 8 times over.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1472762[/ATTACH](the man was a busy bee that was used to winning... and when that didn&#039;t happen the end came<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie41" alt=":depressed:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />)</p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp;As well, for how little we know about &quot;the last of the Greeks&quot;, as one Roman opponent referred to the legend as after his ignominious end, who knows where he would land on an all time great generals list!</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1472752[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Sole solidifier of the Achaean (Achaian) league at times Philopoemen was what Alcibiades could&#039;ve been if he wasn&#039;t so obsessed... with himself<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie60" alt=":kiss:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie60" alt=":kiss:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p>No coins exist, that I&#039;ve been able to find, with or in the name of Philopoemen<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie26" alt=":bookworm:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p>After remembering his tie in with the Achaean league</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1472766[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp;I checked my coins to find I had a coin minted by the Achaean league as late as 175 (just eight years after the myths forced suicide <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie100" alt=":wideyed:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />)... or did I?</p><p>Seller&#039;s ID:</p><p>ACHAIAN LEAGUE. Messene. Circa 175-168 BC. AR Triobol 2,00gr, Laureate head of Zeus right / Large X monogram; C-X in fields; below trident? all within laurel wreath. BCD Peloponessos-. VF. Purchased from Art &amp; Coins #2 Jan 2022</p><p><br /></p><p>Upon further inspection of the, wet around the ears, new auction house description I did NOT see a trident (though due to the wear and tear I can see where the confusion arose)is.</p><p>I looked up thunderbolt along with Achaian league and found this, what I believe is a, much more rare and accurate, though further in time from Philopoemen, attribution:</p><p>Achaian League. Elis. Circa 50-30 BC. AR Hemidrachm. Kallippos, magistrate. Laureate head of Zeus Hamarios right; KALLIPPOU above / AX monogram; FA monogram above, FA monogram to left, XE monogram to right, thunderbolt below; all within wreath. Clerk 273; BCD Peloponnesos 690; SNG Copenhagen 298-9 var. (name)</p><p>And now, first things last, the coin:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1472760[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Any corrections are, as always, appreciated<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]EqWRaAF6_WY[/MEDIA]</p><p><br /></p><p>Can any of you bring us closer to the destroyer of Sparta&#039;s walls and unifier of Greece, Philopoemen?<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie33" alt=":cigar:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie12" alt="o_O" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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