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<p>[QUOTE="Jack D. Young, post: 3130742, member: 93371"]Thank you for the response; I didn’t realize the TPG’s don’t guarantee authenticity for ancients, but I know nothing about the series either!</p><p><br /></p><p>To your point, I buy rare early copper from known sellers, but as you, research my additions prior to purchase. When I do buy slabbed copper (and it appears the market itself is driving towards that direction more than copper enthusiasts want…) I do even more due diligence prior to purchase, obviously including verifying the cert on-line and any available images. I unfortunately own several varieties in holders now determined to be fakes.</p><p><br /></p><p>The TPG’s are in my experience becoming more and more suspicious of early copper submissions and cautious, particularly for “surface challenged” examples that will end up in “details” holders at best, and this area appears to be the one of largest risk of potential counterfeits- many submitted examples end up being returned as “questionable authenticity”…</p><p><br /></p><p>I have talked with several early copper collectors who state they are getting out of the hobby due to the counterfeit issue, but others are more determined to learn more about their particular collecting area to become more expert themselves, and also join the appropriate coin club to garner the collective knowledge and experience available (like I am a member of EAC).</p><p><br /></p><p>I would only send any of my raw coins in for certification like others have stated in this post- if it is a relatively higher value/ rarer variety that I had confidence in prior to submitting (I will always have my own determination of grade and condition in my mind), a coin that I intend to sell in the general marketplace any time in the future, or seeking confirmation that the coin is or isn’t authentic with prior conversation with a contact at the TPG.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Jack D. Young, post: 3130742, member: 93371"]Thank you for the response; I didn’t realize the TPG’s don’t guarantee authenticity for ancients, but I know nothing about the series either! To your point, I buy rare early copper from known sellers, but as you, research my additions prior to purchase. When I do buy slabbed copper (and it appears the market itself is driving towards that direction more than copper enthusiasts want…) I do even more due diligence prior to purchase, obviously including verifying the cert on-line and any available images. I unfortunately own several varieties in holders now determined to be fakes. The TPG’s are in my experience becoming more and more suspicious of early copper submissions and cautious, particularly for “surface challenged” examples that will end up in “details” holders at best, and this area appears to be the one of largest risk of potential counterfeits- many submitted examples end up being returned as “questionable authenticity”… I have talked with several early copper collectors who state they are getting out of the hobby due to the counterfeit issue, but others are more determined to learn more about their particular collecting area to become more expert themselves, and also join the appropriate coin club to garner the collective knowledge and experience available (like I am a member of EAC). I would only send any of my raw coins in for certification like others have stated in this post- if it is a relatively higher value/ rarer variety that I had confidence in prior to submitting (I will always have my own determination of grade and condition in my mind), a coin that I intend to sell in the general marketplace any time in the future, or seeking confirmation that the coin is or isn’t authentic with prior conversation with a contact at the TPG.[/QUOTE]
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