Geta Pautalia, Thrace

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  1. Patrick M

    Patrick M Razor edge MD

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    I'm having trouble attribute this coin.
    so far I come up with this from the wildwinds website (obverse matches AE17 and the reverse AE18). Maybe on their website the pictures are messed up?!

    Geta, AE18 of Pautalia, Thrace.
    Π CEΠTI ΓETA KAI, bare-headed, draped, cuirassed bust right
    ΠAYTAΛIΩTΩN, lion walking right.
    cf Moushmov 4342
    (note: the picture of the lion exact resemblance but ΓETAC K not ΓETA KAI)

    or

    Geta, as Caesar: 198-209, AE17 of Pautalia, Thrace.
    Π Λ CEΠ ΓETAC K, youthful, draped bust right
    OYΛΠIAC ΠAYTAΛIAC, Lion walking right.
    Moushmov 4342; Ruzicka 852
    (note: ΓETAC K correct but the lion is different - no writings underneath)

    Any other website/books, resources would be greatly appreciated.
     
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  3. Roman Collector

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    The standard reference for coins of that city is Ruzicka. I'll look it up for you this evening when I get home from work.
     
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  4. Patrick M

    Patrick M Razor edge MD

    Thank you!
     
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  5. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    RPC is a good resource for provincial coins.
    I can find stuff there that I can't find on wildwinds. Though I don't always have success there either. Just another arrow in your quiver :)

    https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/
     
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  6. Roman Collector

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    True, but the Severans aren't completed there yet.
     
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  7. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Which is why I couldn’t find it! Lol
    I thought I might be doing something wrong.
     
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  8. Roman Collector

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    The coin is Ruzicka 852, which is an AE 18, with specimens in London and Sofia.

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    You'll note the legend breaks match your coin exactly, and I suspect the coins cited are a reverse die-match to yours.

    The London specimen cited by Ruzicka is this one in the British Museum, BMC 3.146,42, probably with some of the legends off the flan, and it is probably a reverse-die match to yours as well.

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    Ruzicka also cites Moushmov 4342, which is almost certainly incorrectly transliterated/translated from the Bulgarian at Moushmov online:

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    I don't have either edition of Varbanov, so I'm afraid I can't look it up for you there. It isn't at the Corpus Nummorum website listings for Geta coinage of Pautalia.
     
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  9. NewMismatist23

    NewMismatist23 New Member

    Good afternoon. I might say very nice coin. good eye appeal. I am new to the forum and doing a project for university. I would like any coins or pictures or examples of coins from Tarter. Titarian empire. Must be north of china. thank you




     
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  10. Patrick M

    Patrick M Razor edge MD

    Thank you very much for taking the time and looking this up for me. Greatly appreciated!! Great deal of help!
     
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