Get on the Mule Train!

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by David Atherton, Sep 16, 2021.

  1. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    My most recent purchase is a decently scarce Flavian bronze mule.

    V767.jpg Titus as Caesar [Vespasian]
    Æ Dupondius, 10.82g
    Rome mint, 74 AD
    Obv: T•CAESAR•IMP•COS III•CENS; Head of Titus, laureate, bearded, r.
    Rev: TR•POT•COS III•CENSOR•; Winged caduceus between crossed cornuacopiae
    RIC 767 (R). BMC 892. BNC 908.

    A truly remarkable Titus Caesar dupondius struck in Rome under Vespasian, but lacking the traditional radiate portrait on the obverse and the de rigueur S C on the reverse. The reverse with crossed cornucopiae echoes similar types from the East. Traditionally, the issue this rather strange coin is from has been attributed to various different mints over the years. However, hoard and findspot data indicates these coins circulated in the Western empire and not in the East. Ted Buttrey in the RIC II.1 A&C wrote - 'RIC 756-767 are irregular Dupondii, which should be taken together with Asses, semisses and quadrantes (RIC 1564-1581), forming together a single extraordinary issue in four denominations, distinct in typology and metal, as well as overall character from the regular coinage of the year. Although Eastern in aspect and reverse type, the circulation area of the dupondii is almost exclusively Gaul, Germany, Italy – i.e. the West, with scarcely any penetration of the East. Finds of the smaller denominations are rarely attested anywhere, East or West. The Eastern finds appear to be simply the débris of Mediterranean circulation.'

    This specimen has the additional feature of being a mint mule combining an obverse intended for Titus Caesar's previous bronze issue with a 'Syrian' reverse. In all likely hood both issues were struck contemporaneously.

    Get on the mule train and post your mules!
     
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  3. Harry G

    Harry G Well-Known Member

    I have a couple :)

    Claudius II mules, with DIVO CLAVDIO obverse

    SECVRIT AVG
    claudius ii mule 2.png
    FELICITAS AVG
    claudius ii mule 3.png
    PAX AVGVSTI
    claudius ii mule.png

    AETERNITAS AVG
    divo clavdio aeternitas.png

    I have a couple of Tetricus antoniniani, with the obverse of one Tetricus, and the reverse of the other!

    Tetricus I / PRINC IVVENT
    Tetricus I PRINC IVVENT.png

    Tetricus II / COMES AVG
    tetricus ii comes.png

    And finally a fouree antoninianus of Gordian III, PRINCIPI IVVENTVTIS reverse
    gordian iii fouree.png
     
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  4. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Supporter! Supporter

    Curtis Clay explained to me that the Philip II Tet I posted was in fact not a true hybrid/mule, rather a unique die pair. Therefore the info I added to the NGC slab has been changed to read die pair instead of hybrid. At times numismatic nomenclature can be confusing o_O.
    NGC 3988264-003 Al Kowsky Collection.jpg


    However, my favorite mule is "Sal" :p.

     
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  5. Jay GT4

    Jay GT4 Well-Known Member

    Nice find David. Here's another mule from Titus. Rare, but not exceeding rare. It has it's own RIC number, just like yours. They must have struck thousands of them before they noticed the mistake.

    TitusPontif.jpg

    T CAES IMP VESP CENS
    Laureate bust right

    PONTIF MAXIM
    Vespasian seated right on curule chair, with sceptre and branch

    Rome, 73 AD

    RIC 554 (R) (Vespasian) A mule with reverse type of Vespasian

    3.03g
     
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  6. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Not as many passengers on this 'mule train' as I thought there would be!
     
  7. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Supporter! Supporter

    You'll have to wait a week or so for Faustina Friday. ;)
     
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  8. Alwin

    Alwin Supporter! Supporter

    Better than a mule, two mules!
    470.jpg
    DOMITILLA, Sestertius
    Rome, 80-81
    Carpentum drawn right by two mules
     
  9. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus Supporter

    A very nice pickup. Here is a mule I just acquired recently. As you know, this is the second one known. I'll let other members guess who has the other one.

    Vespasian AR Denarius 77-78 CE
    (18mm 3.17g)
    Obv: Head laureate left; IMP CAESAR VESPASIANVS AVG
    Rev: COS VI in exergue; Oxen 2 yoked
    RIC 945; BMC--; RSC --
    Purchased from C J Martin coins on Vcoins.
    Vespasian ric 945 new.jpg
     
  10. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Supporter! Supporter

    Here's one of the more interesting mules in my numophylacium -- it has the Latin-language obverse of the Thracian city of Deultum combined with the Greek-language reverse of the Moesian city of Marcianopolis. I've written about this coin before.

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    Julia Mamaea, AD 222-235.
    Roman Provincial Æ tetrassarion, 22.4 mm, 8.92 g, 1 h.
    Hybrid of coins of Deultum and Marcianopolis, AD 227-228/229.
    Obv: IVLIA MA-MAEA AVG; draped bust, right, wearing stephane.
    Rev: VΠ TIB IOVΛ ΦHCTȢ MAPKIANOΠOΛITΩN, eagle standing facing, head left, with wings spread, holding wreath in beak.
    Refs: Unpublished; see Varbanov II, 2333 (Mamaea) and AMNG I-1, 1018-21 (Severus Alexander).
     
  11. TIF

    TIF Always learning. Supporter

    Good topic! My only mule doesn't really count because it's a fourree and therefore doesn't have quite the same significance.

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    Roman Republic fourree mule denarius
    L. Antestius Gragulus, 136 BCE, and C. Renius, 138 BCE

    ancient forgery, 3.18 gm
    Obv: Roma helmeted head right, * below chin, GRAG behind
    Rev: Juno Caprotina in a biga of goats, C・RENI below, ROMA in exergue
    Ref: Obverse S.115, Cr.238/1, Syd.451, RSC Antestia 9; Reverse S.108, Cr.231/1, Syd.432, RSc Renia 1

    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/mule-or-goat-both-gragulus-renius-fourée-denarius.270214/
     
  12. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus Supporter

    Well okay my friend… but you had me at goat biga
     
  13. ominus1

    ominus1 When in Rome, do as the Romans do Supporter

    ..now that's what i was expecting...:)
     
  14. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus Supporter

    As a language nerd, the 2 tongues would have sold me on the coin as well. As most of you know I have bought coins for lesser reasons because they were…well…coins.
     
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  15. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    Fourree Mule

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    RR fourée mule anon Q Fabius Labeo denarius 18mm 2.9g after 124 BC Roma X Jupiter Quadriga thunderbolt scepter Cr 159 obv Cr 273-1 rev


    AniMule

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    RI Julia Flavia Titi Diva 90-91 CE d-Titus concubine-uncleDomitian AE Sestertius 33mm 20.4g - Carpentum mules SPQR - SC

    mule1
    /myo͞ol/
    noun
    1. 1.
      the offspring of a donkey and a horse (strictly, a male donkey and a female horse), typically sterile and used as a beast of burden
     
  16. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus Supporter

    Wow Brian that Julia Titi is phenomenal. The wear does not bother me because in this case I think it enhances the look of the coin. My goodness my friend I love that one.
     
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  17. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    Thank you! It seems like it circulated well.
     
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