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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;chrisild, post: 1645256, member: 39&quot;]Attractive piece! While I do not actually know much about the background, and don&#039;t quite understand the &quot;Old Gotha&quot; part, one thing struck me as odd - the IVL CLI ET MON part of the duke&#039;s title. That is Jülich Kleve Berg, something you would find on old coins from this area (Rhineland), not on Saxon pieces. So I looked it up, and it seems that this is one of those hereditary titles: The duke on your coin, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Casimir,_Duke_of_Saxe-Coburg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Casimir,_Duke_of_Saxe-Coburg" rel="nofollow">Johann Casimir</a>, never actually &quot;had&quot; those territories but it might be a good idea to keep the title just in case etc. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Christian[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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