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<p>[QUOTE="Dafydd, post: 26695917, member: 86815"]I actually go out of my way to bid on details coins at auction because so many people are more obsessed with possessing a grade and lump of plastic than the coin. What person in the right mind at the grading company thinks that a coin that is nearly 500 years old <b>hasn't </b>been cleaned. Beautiful coin [USER=10461]@lordmarcovan[/USER] marred by unrealistic grading opinion. </p><p>This is a typical example of what I chase. This one is graded AU Details cleaned by PCGS. Had it not had the details slur I probably wouldn't have been successful at the auction. I concur with [USER=87179]@Chris B[/USER] that an attractive coin is an attractive coin.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1703503[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>I've previously mentioned that I have shipwreck coins graded to preserve provenance and sometimes I get a details cleaned tag on shipwreck coins which is bizarre. I'm 50/50 on grading. I prefer raw coins but can see some merit in slabs for preservation of vulnerable coins or to reassure buyers that high value coins are genuine or at least likely to be. It's not that popular a concept yet in the UK but increasing particularly on liquidation of a collection.</p><p>The coin above is rated as the top of its population at PCGS which I also find a bit weird. </p><p>This one is straight graded by PCGS at AU55 . </p><p><img src="https://d1htnxwo4o0jhw.cloudfront.net/cert/88580809/small/68598108.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>I wanted a Briot milled specimen but wouldn't have bid on this one which sold for four times what mine cost. Take a look at the strike weakness on both sides, a straight AU55 bemuses me.</p><p>With ancients and hammered and early milled grading is subjective and probably not as vital as scoring on late coinage where people will pay huge premiums for "the best".[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Dafydd, post: 26695917, member: 86815"]I actually go out of my way to bid on details coins at auction because so many people are more obsessed with possessing a grade and lump of plastic than the coin. What person in the right mind at the grading company thinks that a coin that is nearly 500 years old [B]hasn't [/B]been cleaned. Beautiful coin [USER=10461]@lordmarcovan[/USER] marred by unrealistic grading opinion. This is a typical example of what I chase. This one is graded AU Details cleaned by PCGS. Had it not had the details slur I probably wouldn't have been successful at the auction. I concur with [USER=87179]@Chris B[/USER] that an attractive coin is an attractive coin. [ATTACH=full]1703503[/ATTACH] I've previously mentioned that I have shipwreck coins graded to preserve provenance and sometimes I get a details cleaned tag on shipwreck coins which is bizarre. I'm 50/50 on grading. I prefer raw coins but can see some merit in slabs for preservation of vulnerable coins or to reassure buyers that high value coins are genuine or at least likely to be. It's not that popular a concept yet in the UK but increasing particularly on liquidation of a collection. The coin above is rated as the top of its population at PCGS which I also find a bit weird. This one is straight graded by PCGS at AU55 . [IMG]https://d1htnxwo4o0jhw.cloudfront.net/cert/88580809/small/68598108.jpg[/IMG] I wanted a Briot milled specimen but wouldn't have bid on this one which sold for four times what mine cost. Take a look at the strike weakness on both sides, a straight AU55 bemuses me. With ancients and hammered and early milled grading is subjective and probably not as vital as scoring on late coinage where people will pay huge premiums for "the best".[/QUOTE]
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