German States Coin Weight

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by hillwalker, Jan 20, 2021.

  1. hillwalker

    hillwalker New Member

    Hi,
    I would appreciate any information re the attached pictures please.
    I understand this to be a German States 'Coin Weight' and although I see similar ones from Prussia I can't pin this one down. The horse seems to suggest 'Brunswick Wolfenbuttel' but can't find any verification of it.
    Any help would be very much appreciated.
    Thank you in advance.
     

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  3. hillwalker

    hillwalker New Member

    Sorry, I should have added:
    weight - 13.2g
    Diameter - 28mm
     
  4. Chris B

    Chris B Supporter! Supporter

    I am certainly not an expert on these but yours has the right look to it. Here is one in my collection.

    GerPru182001.jpg

    Prussia Friedrich Wilhelm III 1820 2 Friedrichs d'or
    Prussia

    Brass 2 Friedrichs d'or 25mm. 13.19g.

    Coin Weight (Passiergewicht)

    Crowned Prussian eagle displayed; Official Coutrstamps (Prussian Eagle), (NORMAL/COMISS) in exergue.

    Inscription in six lines.
    PASSIER / GEWICHT / VON / 2 FR. D'OR / 1759 / 1820

    Olding 503; Tewes 31
     
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  5. hillwalker

    hillwalker New Member

    Thank you for your reply. Yes it certainly looks like a similar item. I have found little information on them and wonder if you have any links that might help identify it please.
     
  6. Chris B

    Chris B Supporter! Supporter

    My thought is that, despite the horse on one side, this is a Prussia piece. You could start with one of the catalogs by Manfred Olding. I don't know of anywhere to view them on line and typically they are a little pricey. If you have any coin shops in your area that specialize in world coins you might want to try them first.
     
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  7. hillwalker

    hillwalker New Member

    Thank you very much for the information. I appreciate it.
    I will certainly look out for the catalog you suggest.
     
  8. hillwalker

    hillwalker New Member

    I thought you might be interested in an upate. By chance I found my item here:-

    https://www.cgbfr.com/louis-xv-dit-...is-dor-dit-mirliton-n-d-ttb,bry_460026,a.html

    I've also seen several Prussian types but none showing a horse. Although this is clearly my item I am still not clear which state it represents. It's a Brunswick type horse in appearance and is also a 'Hanovarian' horse according to this description.
    Brunswick-Luneburg-Calenberg-Hannover?
    I'm really guessing now!!
     
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  9. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    You nailed it, Manfred Olding had it :)
    https://www.ma-shops.com/olding2/item.php?id=298045
    Edit: looks like another variety has a 1 instead of it spelled out.
    https://www.ma-shops.com/olding2/item.php?id=298049
    @hillwalker thanks for introducing me to another interesting aspect of German States coinage. There's so much fascinating history!
     
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  10. hillwalker

    hillwalker New Member

    Thank you very much for the links confirming the State. Much appreciated.
    Yes the whole subject is absorbing and not a little confusing.
    I've been mulling that over for days but with your help I can now lay that one to rest.
     
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  11. skully53

    skully53 Member

    Is there a market for German coins pre during and post WWII? Seems the high #'s minted really puts a "less than" worth on most of them.
     
  12. The Eidolon

    The Eidolon Well-Known Member

    That's a pretty broad time range. Germany has a healthy domestic collecting market, so lots of German coins sell for much more than bullion value. For the older, German States stuff, they tend to sell out very quickly from my local shops (in the US). If I want to buy something, I better decide right away because it will likely be gone next time. Mintages are also pretty low for a lot of the German States stuff, which means you don't need too many collectors to drive up prices.
     
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  13. skully53

    skully53 Member

    Nice! I got German out, well out all over.
     
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