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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;3mark, post: 715269, member: 21124&quot;]Jaeger and AKS will give you proof mintages for some coins and they shared information with each other.&nbsp; They only knew some mintages from mint records, but many of these were lost over time.&nbsp; Some of the mintages are incorrect and are reported with different numbers in different places.&nbsp; As a collector of German proofs, I know how you feel.&nbsp; As a general rule, proofs were minted at each mint for each denomination since 1871.&nbsp; The questions always has been &quot;how many of each?&quot;.&nbsp; With German minors from the KR, I have a catalog of the greatest set of minors in proof &quot; 24. Münz-Auktion, Komplette Sammlug, Kleinmünsen des Deutschen Kaiserrichs in einmaliger Qualität, Grün/Künker, Nov. 14, 1998&quot; were they use the German 5 &quot;R&quot; scale for the coins in the sale.&nbsp; This is the only way that I can tell which coins(mostly proofs) are the most rare.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>The only other way to tell, is to watch sales, check CoinArchives, and talk with other collectors and dealers.&nbsp; For example, Jaeger reports that there were 800 proof 1929J Lessings 3 marks struck in proof, but I know of no one that has ever seen one and in fact the Lessing 3 mark proof from any mint is rarely found.</p><p><br /></p><p>As to patterns, the Schaaf book is the only reference about German patterns since 1871 and Ron Guth may still have some at germancoins.com.</p><p><br /></p><p>Hope this helps a little.</p><p><br /></p><p>3Mark[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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