Genuine Morgans??

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Garlicus, Sep 12, 2020.

  1. Garlicus

    Garlicus Debt is dumb, cash is king.

    I have had these for a while, and I’m thinking of selling them relatively cheap, with some others, but the weight on these is slightly heavy (within tolerance?), so I am wondering if anything else stands out.

    Coin 1 appears to have been plated. I am not worried about overall condition, just authenticity of the coins. Not magnetic. Your thoughts? I apologize for the poor pics, too.

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  3. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    How heavy are they? I don't see anything immediately obvious in any of those pictures that sets off red flags, but fakes have gotten quite convincing. If the diameter and thickness are right, it's quite difficult for fakers to get an alloy that weighs within the typical range.
  4. Garlicus

    Garlicus Debt is dumb, cash is king.

    Thank you for the response.

    My scale only goes to tenths, and these come in at 26.8, while an MS would be 26.73. I can understand the suspected plated coin being a little heavy, but the other coins should come in at 26.7 or possibly even 26.6 due to wear.
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  5. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    That could be a scale issue rather than any actual problem with the weight.
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  6. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat dave700x -1883 O nut

    All appear to be genuine from these images. The #1 1889 is a bit shiny. Possibly polished?
  7. Garlicus

    Garlicus Debt is dumb, cash is king.

    I was thinking polished at first, but leaning towards plated due to lack of any residue within the devices. The only ‘dirt’ that I see on the coin are in the nicks on the edge near UNUM.
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  8. jgrinz

    jgrinz Senior Member

    1 is polished reverse field looks odd.
    the rest look okay couple of MS and a few Au
    Have fun
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  9. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    In that condition, they won't have lost enough weight for your scale to detect. Wear has mostly moved metal on the surface (bumps and scrapes), and only removed metal from the very highest points. I doubt if any of them have lost more than a few hundredths of a gram.

    A 1/10g scale can be expected to be off by at least a tenth of a gram. You can try it out with stacks of uncirculated nickels (5.0 +/- 0.2g) and see what you get. Or, do you happen to have any modern US commemorative sets that include silver dollars? They should have the same weight and dimensions as the Morgans.
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  10. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    1. Looks to have been polished but all look okay to me also. Good luck
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  11. steve westermeier

    steve westermeier Cancer sucks!

    Plus, why would anyone waste there time counterfeiting a common date?
  12. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Because they can still sell the fake for more than the cost of materials, and because common dates get less scrutiny than keys.
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  13. steve westermeier

    steve westermeier Cancer sucks!

    Doesn't seem logical to me. Ruining your reputation, possible freedom, etc. for a $20-40 coin. I imagine there's some dumb scammers out there but for a few bucks, can't see it!...... Just my opinion!
  14. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    It's not just one, though.

    And if it's not illegal in the country where you're doing it... where's the risk?
  15. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Haven't you heard of the guy that gold plated a no Cent Liberty Nickel and passed them off as a $5.00 coin?
  16. steve westermeier

    steve westermeier Cancer sucks!

    That would be a bogus gold coin and, not for $20! More like, at the least, $600 on up!
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