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Message:: [QUOTE="JPeace$, post: 2324742, member: 42727"]Well, not to just jump in the melee, but regarding the OP's original post: This is my opinion: Coins in a Rattler attract attention.  People believe that the TPG's grading has become more lenient since the early days.  I'm not here to debate that in this thread, just stating general market beliefs.  Now, many people are out looking for under-graded coins and Rattlers are a good place to start.  In the case of the MS65 Washie you posted, if I were in the market, I'd look at it because of when it was graded (indicated by the Rattler), but then assess the coin on it's own merits.  I don't like the coin in the holder as it doesn't appeal to my eye.  I wouldn't even consider buying the coin, thus the rattler adds no value one way or the other.  So I think Rattlers and No-line Fatties are like "curb appeal" in real estate.  They attract people to the coin, but will not add value on it's own if the "guts" aren't all there. As for Monster Toned coins, I direct you to the Simpson Sunnywood coins auctioned by Legend late last year.  I consider those perfect examples of the "Monster" definition.[/QUOTE]