Gender of Barber type coins

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Siwash, Apr 8, 2009.

  1. Just Carl

    Just Carl Numismatist

    Exactly what I was saying. Just look up thoes Old Romans. All their statues, coins, etc all show that same sharp featured look. So that means if you went back in time all the Roman and Greek Women would look like Men?
    Now look at those Liberty Head coins again and then look at the Indian Head Cent. Next check out the Indian Head Nickel. Note the nose on all of them.
    Either everyone about that time had that sharp nose of they are all the same person????????
     
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  3. johnny54321

    johnny54321 aspiring numismatist

    Yeah, I see this a lot. Also, in gold, the classic head types, and $10 indian eagles look very masculine to me.
     
  4. Collector1966

    Collector1966 Senior Member

    According to legend, the "Indian" on the Indian Head Cent was the designer's very Caucasian daughter posing in an Indian headdress, in the late 1850s. The Indian Head Nickel was supposedly a composite of three male Indian chiefs designed more than 50 years later.
     
  5. hfd12316

    hfd12316 Senior Member

    An alegorical representation of Liberty who has been depicted as a female through our history. With a rather strong male profile. Never really liked them until I saw a MS coin. I could be a convert.
     
  6. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Coins of Helios remind me alot of ome us coins, kinda looks ambiguous though

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  7. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    i am not going to stop collecting barber coins
     
  8. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    I found an article from the November 6, 1891 New York Times that should answer the question as to the gender of Liberty on Barber coins:

    So, yes, that is a female - Lady Liberty - that graces Barber coins. She was considered beautiful at the time.
     
  9. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    hobo the official version has always been that it was a lady but we cant keep our eyes closed and pretend. the designer might even have designed it keeping a lady in mind but i am looking at the outcome not the intent ;)
     
  10. Collector1966

    Collector1966 Senior Member

    Consider the era when these coins were designed--

    It was the wacky Victorian Age, with its warped sense of "propriety" (in which people covered the legs of their tables and chairs with "leggings" so that male visitors wouldn't get any ideas about their daughters :rolleyes: ).

    Also, think about the endless grief that Anna Williams, the Philadelphia schoolteacher who modeled for the Morgan dollar, got for posing for the coin a few years before ("Only hussies pose for artists!")

    I would be surprised if they could have found a female model, after all the flak that Miss Williams took. So it would not surprise me in the least if they found some adolescent male or young man to pose instead, and tried to fix his features so they somewhat resembled a woman's.
     
  11. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    Listen to what he is saying. we need to take a practical look at the coin and decide for ourselves rather than go by papers.
     
  12. byrd740

    byrd740 Numismatist

    The GNA(Georgia Numismatic Association) Journal, I got in the mail yesterday, has a parody article in it wondering is the Barber Liberty a man. It says that it was a Liberty but it was Lady Liberty's brother, Luke Liberty, that posed for Barber.

    Chase A Byrd
     
  13. illini420

    illini420 1909 Collector

    Agreed. I didn't like them when I first started collecting. But once I bought a few high grade examples, it's now one of my favorite series.

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  14. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    I've always thought the Barber coin was a male, but it is supposed to be a female, right?
    The same kinda goes for the mercury dime, that one is kinda confusing too
     
  15. Danr

    Danr Numismatist

    lady Liberty, strong Greek influence
     
  16. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    I can see why ! Fabulous coin.

    Stage 1 of coin collecting is "OOOOOH ! SHINY !!!". That disease is quickly cured by a coin like the one you posted.
     
  17. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    I think it's that tastes change over time.100 years ago that was considered beauty.I read somewhere they also thought skinny women were unattractive.
     
  18. majorbigtime

    majorbigtime New Member


    Mee too. But "she" has manly features IMO.
     
  19. majorbigtime

    majorbigtime New Member


    Could it be California Goobenor Arnold's "Girley man?"
     
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