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<p>[QUOTE="7Jags, post: 2477856, member: 78719"]Wow, that was a rather groundless and puerile immature reply! To which I will stoop to respond:</p><p>I think you have a coin that has many suspicious aspects that we have not been able to see in hand, that may even be genuine but one that is the type that even if slabbed should be viewed with suspicion.</p><p><br /></p><p>A rational approach is to question such a coin, with the operative hypothesis that is not genuine and then disprove the hypothesis. To wit, I am happy that you took the measures you did in going back through Heritage and [unfortunately] back to NGC, and a point which I shall address. I would certainly hope that they have specifically responded to the concerns that I have raised and that seem to have also been raised on that other Board. In addition, I would hope that they at least performed the basics such as a Specific Gravity Test, accurate weight, and a detailed microscopic, as well as compared it to known coins accepted as genuine by consensus and provenance. If not, then they either did not take the time to elaborate or, more worrisome, did not go through the effort of systematically examining and testing this coin.</p><p>Even if they have, I suppose ultimately going to NGC on this is a bit like asking your mother or sister how your school recital went. It may be a bit difficult for obvious reasons for them to independently assess their own previous assessment. They certainly have been "caught out" before - see examples that have been cited on that other Board.</p><p> I read with amusement some of the commentary that reminds me a bit of the politically simple rhetoric currently being played out on the U.S. national political stage by some. Assertions are great, but there comes a time when they must be backed up with the real work of science and rationalization. In summation, I think most of us hope you have a genuine specimen 1934 Wreath Crown. It has many suspicious attributes based on photographic inspection that certainly make it worthy of being examined, and examined in detail given the current rash of counterfeits and fakes (from China AND other sources). Please feel free to cite any details of missives exchanged with Heritage or NGC if you'd like.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="7Jags, post: 2477856, member: 78719"]Wow, that was a rather groundless and puerile immature reply! To which I will stoop to respond: I think you have a coin that has many suspicious aspects that we have not been able to see in hand, that may even be genuine but one that is the type that even if slabbed should be viewed with suspicion. A rational approach is to question such a coin, with the operative hypothesis that is not genuine and then disprove the hypothesis. To wit, I am happy that you took the measures you did in going back through Heritage and [unfortunately] back to NGC, and a point which I shall address. I would certainly hope that they have specifically responded to the concerns that I have raised and that seem to have also been raised on that other Board. In addition, I would hope that they at least performed the basics such as a Specific Gravity Test, accurate weight, and a detailed microscopic, as well as compared it to known coins accepted as genuine by consensus and provenance. If not, then they either did not take the time to elaborate or, more worrisome, did not go through the effort of systematically examining and testing this coin. Even if they have, I suppose ultimately going to NGC on this is a bit like asking your mother or sister how your school recital went. It may be a bit difficult for obvious reasons for them to independently assess their own previous assessment. They certainly have been "caught out" before - see examples that have been cited on that other Board. I read with amusement some of the commentary that reminds me a bit of the politically simple rhetoric currently being played out on the U.S. national political stage by some. Assertions are great, but there comes a time when they must be backed up with the real work of science and rationalization. In summation, I think most of us hope you have a genuine specimen 1934 Wreath Crown. It has many suspicious attributes based on photographic inspection that certainly make it worthy of being examined, and examined in detail given the current rash of counterfeits and fakes (from China AND other sources). Please feel free to cite any details of missives exchanged with Heritage or NGC if you'd like.[/QUOTE]
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