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Message:: [QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 3231990, member: 112"]It doesn't have anything to do with fear Paul, it only has to do with facing up to and admitting reality. As to your ability to determine the authenticity of toning, you could be every bit as good at it and even better than the TPGs and it still wouldn't matter. As a matter of fact, given some of the obviously AT'd coins that the TPGs slab, I'd readily agree that you are better at it than the TPGs. But it still doesn't matter. That's because when coins are artificially toned by people who know what they are doing, the result is 100% indistinguishable from natural toning by anybody because the toning is caused by the exact same things. The only difference between AT and NT is intent, and the speed at which it happens. Other than that they are exactly the same. And no, I'm not talking about the guys who pour chemicals on top of coins or bake coins in potatoes and the like - even a novice can identify those. I'm talking about people who know what they are doing. And with their products, you can't tell one from the other and neither can anybody else.[/QUOTE]