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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;tibor, post: 3582469, member: 73385&quot;][USER=89314]@talerman[/USER]&nbsp;&nbsp; Actually there are 2 different Spanish coins, a denier and an obol</p><p>that have the Es Safar date, a calendar system introduced by Augustus Caesar in</p><p>38 B.C. The Roman numerals on the coins are MCCIIII. Correcting for the</p><p>difference between the two calendar systems actually means that the coins</p><p>were minted 1166 A.D. I will send pics of both. The coins from Aachen and</p><p>Schoonvorst -Sichem are an interesting story.&nbsp; The 1372 Aachen Groschen has</p><p>been lost to the numismatic community either by war or theft, it is no longer</p><p>known. The same can be said for the 1373 piece. There are approximately 11-20</p><p>collectible pieces for the 1374 Aachen Groschen. These are pieces that are</p><p>available to collectors either by auction or price list. They appear once every</p><p>2-3 years. I have two pieces differentiated by the vestments (robe) that</p><p>Charlemagne is wearing and the position of the Orb he is holding. There are</p><p>also varieties regarding the date. There are varieties concerning the date for</p><p>the 1375 coins, I only have one. The same holds true for collectable population</p><p>and auction/pricelist opportunities.</p><p>&nbsp; Now for the Schoonvorst coinage. The 1372 Gros is known by one example,</p><p>it is located in a museum. The coinage dated 1390-1394 is almost impossible</p><p>to own. The 1391 is the &quot;easiest&quot; of the group, I own one. The 1393 has less</p><p>than 10 possibilities to own and they are in STRONG hands. The other three</p><p>are so rare that you have a better chance of finding a 1933 Double Eagle or</p><p>an 1804 Silver Dollar in the reject tray at your local CoinStar!! If this game</p><p>ends before I get to show my pre 1400 A.D. coins, I will send pics of them to you and any other interested parties. I will relate what I know a little later concerning</p><p>the 1234 Roskilde piece.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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