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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;PaddyB, post: 2981600, member: 40017&quot;]Well if you look in the book you will find that the 1709 E shilling with no star is a very scarce coin, which should be the good news.</p><p>BUT if you look a bit closer, there are hints that this example may not be entirely right: The designs, both back and front, appear to be English Third bust style, but the 1709E should have the Edinburgh bust and narrow shields. So is this an unrecorded variant, or, more likely, a clever concoction where someone has floated an &quot;E&quot; onto an English coin? (If not faked it from scratch?)</p><p>I paid a fair price for an English 1709 shilling for it - the seller had not recognised the significance of the E and lack of star - so it does not bother me much. But interesting what the fakers will get up to![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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