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Message:: [QUOTE="Jimski, post: 2871020, member: 77373"]Insurgent copper 8 reales of the Mexican War of Independence. [ATTACH=full]686105[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]686106[/ATTACH] The “Mo” on the reverse is the monogram of General Jose Morelos, who in 1810 organized and led the southern army of the insurgency, by request of Miguel Hidalgo, the father of the revolution.  After Hidalgo’s execution in 1811, Morelos would eventually lead the insurgency until his capture and execution in 1815. The SUD on the obverse means “south” in Spanish. In his book Numismatic History of Mexico, Alberto Francisco Pradeau quotes a letter written by Morelos in August 1811: "Finding myself without funds; with the Treasury in debt some thousands of pesos caused by the demands of so many voracious commission holders, I decided to stamp copper coins which will serve as promissory notes.  Thus the poor and the rich will be lending us the much needed funds with which to carry on. …“[/QUOTE]