[Game] World Coins Time Machine… Counting Backward by Year! (Plus Prize Coin)

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  1. tibor

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    1481 - 11 - 60 - Flanders copy.jpg
    This Gros was minted in Bruges.

    BENEDIC AIA MES DNO 1481 Medieval "4"

    MARIA DVCISSA BG CO FL
     
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  3. tibor

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    1481-Brabant-11-58 - Copy.jpg
    This Four Mites was minted in Antwerp. This piece represents
    the first copper/billon coin with a date.

    SIT NO ME DOI BENEDICT 1481 Medieval "4"

    MARIA DEI G DVCISS BG BR LI
     
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  4. tibor

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    1481-ii61b.jpg
    This coin was minted in Liege. there are two versions of this coin,
    II-61a with a long cross and II-61b with a short cross.

    SALVV FAC P TV D LXXXI

    LVDO DE BORB EPS LEOD DVX BVL
     
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  5. tibor

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    1481-ii55.jpg
    This piece was minted in Antwerp. It is a Briquet. Briquets
    are some of my favorite pieces.

    BENEDIC HEREDITATI TVE A 1481 Medieval "4"

    MARIA DEI G DVCISS BG BR Z LI
     
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  6. tibor

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    1481-ii54.jpg
    This Double Briquet was minted in Antwerp.

    SALVV FAC PPLM TVV DNE A 1481 Medieval "4"

    MARIA DEI G DVCISS BG BR Z LI
     
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  7. tibor

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    1480 - 11 - 47 - Brabant copy.jpg
    This Gros was minted in Antwerp. Nice condition considering its age.

    BENEDIC AIA MEA DNO A 1480 Medieval "4"

    MARIA DVCISSA BG BR AB Z LI
     
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  8. tibor

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    1480-iv34a-2.jpg
    This Kreuzer was minted in Graz.

    MON NOV STI 8 C The "C" represents an incomplete "0"

    FR R IMO A E I O V
     
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  9. tibor

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    1480-ii149.jpg
    This Double Briquet was minted in Bruges. This is a candidate
    for an upgrade.

    SALVV FAC PPLM TVV DNE 1480 Medieval "4"

    MARIA DVCISSA BG COMIT FL
     
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  10. tibor

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    1480 II-46 Branbant.jpg
    This Briquet was minted in Antwerp. A little grainy but still nice.


    BENEDIC HEREDITATI TVE A 1480 Medieval "4"

    MARIA DEI G DVCISS BG BR Z LI
     
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    1480-ii45.jpg
    This Double Briquet was minted in Antwerp.


    SALVV FAC PPLM TVV DNE A 1480 Medieval "4"

    MARIA DEI G DVCISS BG BR Z LI
     
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  12. talerman

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    There seems considerable doubt about what A E I O V stands for. One possibility is Austriae est imperare orbi universo ("It is Austria's destiny to rule the whole world"). Do you have a view ?
     
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  13. tibor

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    On page 252 of Robert Levinson's book The Early Dated Coins of Europe 1234-1500 he gives two possible theories. One is "All Honors Belong to Austria"
    the other which he attributes to A.Szego who wrote in his book A Coinage of
    Medieval Austria, " All Earth is Austria's Ultimately".
    For me , the first would be more relevant. The Hapsburgs were great benefactors
    of art and science. I think they ruled relatively fairly, and most of their territorial
    expansion was thru marriage. For the second interpretation to hold water they
    would have to have had a HUGE and strong navy like Britain, Spain, Portugal
    or the Dutch. One can be a "big fish" in a wading pool ie. Europe, or you can be
    an even "bigger fish" in the oceans of the world much like Britain was.
    I never even gave any thought to those letters till now. What I wrote here
    was off the top of my head. I welcome any and all corrections and opinions.
     
  14. talerman

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    The problem I have with "All Honors Belong to Austria" is that I think it is in German (Aller Ehren Ist Oestreich Voll) while one would expect it to be a Latin abbreviation.

    Other suggestions I have seen are:

    Alles Erdreich ist Österreich untertan (All the world is subject to Austria, also in German)
    Aquila Electa Juste Omnia Vincit (The eagle is elected, conquers all things justly OR the elected eagle conquers all things justly)
    Austria est imperio optime unita (Austria is best united by the Empire)
    Austria erit in orbe ultima (Austria will be the last (surviving) in the world)

    When Charles V was both Holy Roman Emperor and King of Spain (and along with it the Spanish Netherlands, Southern Italy and Spanish America), the "ruling the world" interpretations would make sense. However, AEIOV was apparently first used by Habsburg Emperor Friedrich III (1415–1493) who at the time was not even Archduke of Austria, just Duke of Syria. (Source: Wikipedia).
     
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  15. tibor

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    That is very impressive. Your numismatic library must measure
    into the thousands of volumes. I know I should have much more
    knowledge about the coins I collect, but work and yard work
    keep me very busy. To be honest, I know I should spend more
    on my library but the coins just draw me. With the added info
    you just presented it makes even harder to make a choice.
     
  16. talerman

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    I find coins lead me into all sorts of byways of history, which I enjoy. I am less interested in the technical aspects of coin production and not in the least interested in the difference between MS 65 and MS 61.
     
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  17. tibor

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    1479 - 11 - 44 Liege copy.jpg
    This Patard was minted in Hasselt. The planchet is rough, maybe a medieval
    "clipper" cut at it to increase his ill gotten pouch of silver.

    BNDIC HEREDITATI TVE LXXIX

    MO EPI LEODIEN FACTA HASSELT
     
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  18. tibor

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    1479-ii42a.jpg
    This Double Patard was minted in Liege. Looks like some tarnish (patina)
    on both sides, where's my Ajax and Brillo pad?!?!;);)
     
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  19. tibor

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    1479-ii41-2.jpg
    This Gros was minted in Bruges.

    BENEDIC ALA MEA DNO 1479 Medieval "4"

    MARIA DVCISSA BG CO FL
     
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  20. tibor

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    1479-ii40.jpg
    This Double Briquet was minted in Bruges. For some reason the Double
    Patard are more common than the singles for many of the years.

    SALVV FAC PPLM TVV DNE 1479 Medieval "4".

    MARIA DVCISSA BG COMIT FL
     
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  21. tibor

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    1479-ii39.jpg
    A Briquet from Antwerp. I like these single Briquets. A much cleaner design.


    BENEDIC HEREDITATI TVE A 1479 Medieval "4" and "7"

    MARIA DEI G DVCISS BG BR Z LI
     
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