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Excuse me, but I have a "1514"

AV Goldgulden 1514 K-G Kremnitz Mint
Wladislaus II 1490-1516
Kingdom of Hungary

 

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I have two for 1513.

Germany JULICH-BERG Johann III 1/2 Guldengroschen 1513




The second coin is fascinating (at least to me). It was not struck in 1513 (so it may be ineligible for this thread) but it is dated 1513.

Austria Archbishopric of SALZBURG Wolf Dietrich von Raitenau (1587-1612)
1/4 Taler Klippe mule with Leonhard von Keutschach (1495-1519) 1513 obverse. The reverse, however, is that of a Wolf Dietrich issue almost a century later.







Zöttl's standard work on the Salzburg coinage lists 5 such mules struck under Wolf Dietrich, 3 with dies of Leonhard von Keutschach and 2 with dies of Matthaus Lang von Wellenburg (1519-40), so this coin is clearly not an accident nor a mint worker having some fun with an old die. However, no-one seems to know why or on what occasion they were struck.

For comparison, here is a standard Wolf Dietrich 1/4 Taler :

 

@talerman Some really nice pieces!! Gotta love the "3"
on the Klippe. As an aside, weren't Klippes made as
emergency money. I was told that by a dealer back in the
1980's. Maybe most times but not all the time. Any way,
great coins.

 

Here are my 1513 and 1512.

 

That Julich-Berg piece is mindblowing. I feel really proud that my birthplace town issued such beautifull coinage. Would have been nice to have collected coins back then, right from the mint.

 

I have an ugly coin comparedto yours...

AV Sultani AH918= 1512 Constantinople Mint
Sultan Selim I
Probably one of greatest Ottoman Rulers.

 

@panzerman Nothing ugly about that coin. Islamic coins are really nice but hard to figure out.

 

This post pictures a 1511 denar and a 1509 denar. I do not have a coin with
a 1510 date. We won't be able to post 1509 or earlier coins until a 1510 piece
is found. Once one is posted, I can post thru 1503.

 

Yes, I like the 3. As I understand it, Klippes were originally emergency issues but later were struck as patterns or as presentation pieces. My mule may well have been struck as a presentation coin.

 

Here is my 1512, a more modest present to @panzerman in honour of his hometown.

Germany JULICH-CLEVE-BERG Johann III Albus 1512
In 1419 Julich joined The Rhine Monetary Union, formed by Trier, Cologne, Mainz and Pfalz in 1385. The reverse of this Albus therefore has the arms of Mainz (wheel), Cologne (cross), Pfalz (lozanges) and Trier (cross) in the angles of the cross.




and here is my 1511

Germany Bishopric of WURZBURG Lorenz von Bibra Medallic Taler 1511

 

I have a couple of pieces from Julich-Berg. I will save them
for when their dates come up. The pieces I have are rather
common and not nearly as well preserved as the coins @talerman
has shared with us. This thread is moving along rather well.
Hopefully someone will have the 1500-1502 coins.

 

I will be going back to my work soon. Snow is ALMOST gone.. But I will try to keep up with this thread. Spring cleanup time. I think I have a 1510

 

Impressive !

 

Here is my 1510 Goldgulden
Kingdom of Hungary
Wladislaus II
poor strike

 

Since @panzerman was able to post a 1510 and I had posted 1509 before
that, here is the 1508 and 1507. Hopefully there will be someone to help
us with 1502,1501 and 1500.

 

Do you know what the KH mintmark on the 1507 stands for ? I assume the K is Kremnitz but the H ?

 

Here are 2 more for 1508

First for @tibor

HUNGARY Wladislaw (Ulaszlo) II Jagiello Dickgulden 1508
Struck for the coronation of his son Ludwig (or Lajos) as King of Hungary on 4 June 1508 in Stublweissenburg
(Szekesfehervar), , at the age of 2, to assure his succession. The reverse shows the young Lajos crowned and seated facing half-left on a cushion. He looks as if he is enjoying himself.




To balance things, a minor German coin for @panzerman.

Germany POMERANIA Bogislaw V Schilling 1508

 

@talerman The "H" in the "KH" is for Hans which is
German for John, Hans is German for Janos (Hungarian).
I figure he went by Hans since he might have been Austrian
born, later moving to Kremnica which at the time was a
part of Hungary, I think, not sure. The "KG" mintmark
has the "G" for Hans' son, Gyorgy, which in German is
Georgius and George in English. The "KA" mintmark has
an "A" which in Hungarian is Andras, not sure about the
German, hopefully @panzerman can help here.
To my knowledge the three mintmarks are not rare. According
to Huszar I believe they overlap a bit, KH>KG>KA. The
father was Hans and spent most of his life in Austria while
his sons used the Hungarian version of their names because
that's where they were located. These three Mintmarks are
not rare at all. The only date that is rare is the 1503. What
are rare are the little known variations of MM. KA stopped
around 1527-28 I believe. The varieties of MM will run thru
the 1540's I believe. The varieties will represent, mintmasters,
towns, ruling authorities. Value will run for a nice common
( KH,KG,KA and KB) denar $10-$20. Rare varieties may start
at $50 and rise sharply. Hans, Gyorgy and Andras were from
the Thurzo family. The Thurzo's along with the Fuggers from
Germany and Austria controlled most if not all of the mines
in the area, not just silver and gold but copper as well. I'm
doing this mostly from memory so it may not be the Gospel
truth.

 

Thank you very much for this. I knew KG was Georgius Thurzo and I should have worked out that KH was Hans Thurzo. However, are you sure Georgius' son was Andras (which would be Andreas in German and Andrea in Latin ) ? I have seen another reference to KA being Kremnitz, Alexius Thurzo.

 

@talerman Georgius and Andreas were brothers. Andreas or Andras
translates to Alexander in English. Alexius maybe a form of the name
in another language. The only reason I know as much as I do about
this family is because my fathers mothers last name was Thurzo. They
claimed to be descendants of the Medieval Thurzo's. After some exhaustive
research I found out that one branch of the family died out in the late
1500's, the other mid 1600's. So no family ties at all. The branch that
died out in the 1600's, the last generation or so had lost all interest
in the mines due to gambling, drinking and women of ill repute.