[Game] World Coins Time Machine… Counting Backward by Year! (Plus Prize Coin)

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  1. talerman

    talerman Well-Known Member

    1648 REGENSBURG 1/9 Taler Regensburg City One ninth Taler 1648 obv  256.jpg Regensburg City One ninth Taler 1648 rev  258.jpg

    1647 Italy RONCO Napoleone Spinola 1/4 Scudo

    Ronco Nap Spinola Qtr Scudo 1647 obv  264.jpg

    Ronco Nap Spinola Qtr Scudo 1647 rev  267.jpg

    1647 PERPIGNAN (captured by the French from Spain in September 1642) Diner

    Spain Perpignan LouisXIV Diner 1647 obv 199.jpg

    Spain Perpignan LouisXIV Diner 1647 rev 201.jpg
    The reverse is John the Baptist holding a lamb but I am afraid the coin is less than VF and he is not easy to see
     
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  3. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

    I think both these tools are different from your Zainehaken. The first is for actually creating the coin - I would imagine a hot blank is placed in the jaws and then it is squeezed hard using the advantage of leverage to imprint the coin with the design from the dies, which are lodged in the jaws. The Cutters in the picture are just that - as you say probably for trimming sheet metal to blank-size.
    The Zainehaken seems to have been a long hook arrangement for moving long bars of hot metal.
    These are the two references I came upon:
    https://translate.googleusercontent...700201&usg=ALkJrhgl9LPCjnP5MiaiqygRDyRLIifKVQ
    and:
    https://translate.googleusercontent...700201&usg=ALkJrhhjhSwxN9sXeHvvUw7U2myk9PNXvg
    I hope that helps.
     
  4. talerman

    talerman Well-Known Member

    PaddyB, you are clearly right. I am going to use your "billet hook" from now on. Many mintmasters, especially in Germany, used it as a mintmark and I have been frustrated for years that I did not have an English word for it. I have asked a number of quite eminent British and German numismatists and none could help me. Now you have solved the problem. Many thanks !
     
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  5. panzerman

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  6. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    I have a 1646

    AV Dukat 1646 A-I Ailia Julia (Weissenburg Mint)
    Prince Georgyi Razcoki I of Transylvania

    In 1526 the Hungarian Army of Louis II was crushed at the Battle of Mohacs. The victor, Ottoman Sultan,Sulieman the Magnificent allowed the Hungarian Kingdom to exist, but had to be independent of the Holy Roman Empire. This was now ruled by Ottoman friendly Princes, and became known as Transylvania. 795d6b4fc3461edeeacab426258e5b35.jpg 21bcd389790308d1950e70beca3e033f.jpg
     
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  7. talerman

    talerman Well-Known Member

    1646 SWEDEN Queen Christina 2 Riksdaler

    Sweden Christina 2 Riksdaler 1646 obv  278.jpg Sweden Christina 2 Riksdaler 1646 rev  279.jpg
    Thank you. Ronco coins are rare. I think most, including this one, were struck for presentation purposes and did not circulate.
     
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  8. semibovinian

    semibovinian Well-Known Member

    1646 -- Livonia/Riga, 1 solidus:

    1646_LV_Livonia_Riga_1solidus_1o_DPP_2015_11_20__0023_2.jpg 1646_LV_Livonia_Riga_1solidus_1r_DPP_2015_11_20__0024_2.jpg
     
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  9. coin_nut

    coin_nut Well-Known Member

    I am waiting on the sidelines with my lone 1644, and its been over 2 days now, should I post it?
     
  10. talerman

    talerman Well-Known Member

    1645 GERMANY City of WISMAR Taler

    St.Laurentius, on the obverse, holds a grill in his left hand; he is supposed to have suffered martyrdom by being roasted to death on a grill

    Wismar Taler 1645 obv 125.jpg Wismar Taler 1645 rev 126.jpg
     
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  11. Kimotej

    Kimotej Well-Known Member

    I have been away travelling for a while and have missed some years, but here I am again.

    Let´s begin with the usual Solidi of Kristina, that seem quite common here right now. 3 pieces of them from the Free City of Riga.

    Riga Solidus 1645 a.jpg Riga Solidus 1645 b.jpg Riga Solidus 1645 1 a.jpg Riga Solidus 1645 1 b.jpg Riga Solidus 1645 2 a.jpg Riga Solidus 1645 2 b.jpg
     

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  12. Kimotej

    Kimotej Well-Known Member

    Then Sweden and Kristina.

    1/4 öre 1645 - 3 pieces and 3 varieties.
    Sverige 1 4 Öre 1645 Avesta Romber bitecken Sveakronor av typ U Stor pilsköld.jpg
    Sverige 1 4 öre 1645 Kristina 2 olika varianter a.jpg Sverige 1 4 öre 1645 Kristina 2 olika varianter b.jpg

    An I finish off with Sweden and Kristina 1 öre 1645

    Sverige 1 öre 1645 b.jpg Sverige 1 öre 1645 a.jpg
     
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  14. talerman

    talerman Well-Known Member

    Kimotej, still hoping you will tell us the story of the French liard struck in Sweden you posted a little while ago
     
  15. coin_nut

    coin_nut Well-Known Member

    1644 Batavia Coins


    From Wikipedia: “In 1644 the VOC instructed a Chinese resident of Batavia named Conjok to mint copper coinage in denominations of a half and quarter stuiver to address the shortage of low denomination money. The VOC administrators in the Netherlands ordered this minting to cease after only five weeks, so not many coins were minted.”


    From Scholten, page 37: “By a Placard of Aug. 19, 1644 it was decided “to grant the Chinaman named Conjok the sole right to produce a certain amount of copper Half and Quarter Stiver-pieces”. These coins were not only intended for Batavia and dependencies but were also designed to meet the scarcity of small change in Banda, Malacca and Ceylon. A prohibition by the Seventeen (despatch from home of Sept. 21, 1644) soon put an end to this coinage.”


    Lakdiva.org has this to say: “The East India Company of Batavia by a placard of 1644 August 19, it was decided to grant the Chinaman named Conjokthe sole right to cast copper Half and Quarter Stuivers for use in Banda, Malacca. and Ceilon. A prohibition (despatch from Netherlands of 1644 Sept. 21) demonetized this emergency coinage in the Archipelago.”


    *Note that these coins were cast, not minted. Several sources state that their weight varied considerably from the legal weight of 7.72 grams
     

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  16. semibovinian

    semibovinian Well-Known Member

    1644 -- Chur, 1 kreuzer:

    1644_CH_Chur_1kreuzer_1o_DPP_2015_11_20__0021_2.jpg 1644_CH_Chur_1kreuzer_1r_DPP_2015_11_20__0022_2.jpg
     
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  17. talerman

    talerman Well-Known Member

    Very interesting. What is the weight of your coin ?
     
  18. coin_nut

    coin_nut Well-Known Member

    It weighs about 6.9 grams, according to my scale, which I trust less and less as time goes on.
     
  19. dirty_brian

    dirty_brian Supporter! Supporter

    finally get to add something. anybody here going to the Santa Clara show this weekend?
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  20. semibovinian

    semibovinian Well-Known Member

    1643 -- Livonia/Riga, 1 solidus:

    1643_LV_livonia_Riga_1solidus_DPP_2015_11_20__0001.jpg 1643_LV_livonia_Riga_1solidus_DPP_2015_11_20__0002.jpg
     
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  21. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

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    Dombes, Gaston d'Orleans - Quinzain - 1643

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