[Game] World Coins Time Machine… Counting Backward by Year! (Plus Prize Coin)

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  1. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

    Of course she was! My addled my mind - apologies.
     
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  3. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

    For 1700 I have a sixpence:
    1700 6D 1.JPG 1700 6D 2.JPG
     
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  4. semibovinian

    semibovinian Well-Known Member

    1700 -- Brunswick-Luneburg-Calenberg-Hannover, 4 mariengroschen:

    1700_DE_Brunswick_Luneburg_Calenberg_Hannover_4mariengroschen_1a_DPP_2017_09_10__0025_1.jpg 1700_DE_Brunswick_Luneburg_Calenberg_Hannover_4mariengroschen_1b_DPP_2017_09_10__0028_1.jpg
     
  5. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

    I seem to have two photographed for 1699, so here are both of them:
    1699 HC Eng 1.jpg 1699 HC Eng 2.jpg 1699 3D 2.JPG 1699 3D 1.JPG
    First one is a Half Crown which someone has engraved as a love token. Second one is a threepence
     
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  6. semibovinian

    semibovinian Well-Known Member

    1699 -- Austria, 1 kreuzer:

    1699_AT_1kreuzer_DPP_2015_12_01__0001.jpg 1699_AT_1kreuzer_DPP_2015_12_01__0002.jpg
     
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  7. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

    1698 Fourpence - sorry I have nothing better to offer for this year.
    1698 4D 1.JPG 1698 4D 2.JPG
     
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  8. Jimski

    Jimski Well-Known Member

    1698 British halfcrown, S-3494, DECIMO on the raised edge inscription indicated the tenth year of reign

    There are also 1698 halfcrowns with edge inscriptions ANNO REGNI OCTAVO – eight year of reign, ANNO REGNI UNDECIMO - eleventh year of reign. The DECIMO type is most common.
    1698 Halfcrown obv.jpg 1698 Halfcrown rev.jpg

    Before William and Mary’s accession (in 1689) to the throne of England, Scotland and Ireland
    From http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/civil_war_revolution/william_iii_01.shtml

    William was born in the Hague in 1650. Although his mother Mary was English (a daughter of King Charles I), his father William (who died of smallpox days before his son's birth) was an Orange-Nassau, a member of the most powerful family in the United Provinces of the Netherlands.

    William's first two decades were spent trying to regain the Orange position in Dutch politics. Although the Orange family had led Holland's war of independence against Spain in the 16th century, and had usually been elected to the executive stadhouderships (provincial leaderships) of most of Holland's regional provinces, they had never become hereditary sovereigns of that country, and there were powerful forces opposed to them in the republic.

    Until 1672, the opposition kept William from office. In that year, however, King Louis XIV of France invaded the Netherlands, and occupied nearly all the country. In the crisis, the Dutch turned back to the Orange family. William was appointed both to the stadhouderships and to the command of the federal army.

    The events of 1672 determined the rest of William's career. He had come to power to save the Dutch from France, and Europe from the dangerously expansionist Louis - and he became obsessed with these goals. Thus, in the years after the French invasion, William organised his countrymen's resistance.

    He allied with Spain and Austria - and drove Louis from Dutch soil. Vitally, he also explored the idea of the Stuart realms coming to his aid. He urged his uncles - the kings Charles II and James II (from 1685) - to help him stand against France. Then in 1677 he married James's eldest daughter, Mary, in the hope of cementing an Anglo-Dutch alliance.


    The center arms on the reverse are the personal arms of William III, the arms of the House of Orange-Nassau.
     
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  9. semibovinian

    semibovinian Well-Known Member

    1698 -- England, 1 shilling:

    1698_GB_England_1shilling_1o_DPP_2015_10_21__0050_2.jpg 1698_GB_England_1shilling_1r_DPP_2015_10_21__0051_2.jpg
     
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  10. Siberian Man

    Siberian Man Senior Member Moderator

    Bohemia.
    3 kreuzer 1697.
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  11. semibovinian

    semibovinian Well-Known Member

    1697 -- England, 6 pence:

    1697_GB_England_6pence_1o_DPP_2015_12_01__0003_3.jpg 1697_GB_ENgland_6pence_1r_DPP_2015_07_02__0031_2.jpg
     
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  12. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

    Mine for 1697 is a Half Crown:
    1697 HC 2.JPG 1697 HC 1.JPG
    The scratches over the 9 in the date are known as "adjustment marks" - post minting coins were checked for weight and if they were over, a bit was filed off to bring them within range.
     
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  13. Jimski

    Jimski Well-Known Member

    1697 British halfpenny

    1697 British halfpenny obv.jpg 1697 British halfpenny rev.jpg
     
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  14. Jimski

    Jimski Well-Known Member

    @PaddyB
    I didn't know about the adjustment marks. I wondered about the file marks on my 1698 halfcrown. I wondered if they were the work of clippers, or just rough service. Great info.
     
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  15. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Sorry for my absence. My hard drive went kaput, after six days.....finally back online with new computer:) Here is a AV Dukat 1697 Nurnberg Mint/ Wolfgang-Julius Von Neuenstein/ Graf Von Hohenlohe-Neuenstein
    Kunker Auction win dcdeed8bc151185708800b3301299f6c (1).jpg
     
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  16. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Here is another 97. ex: Raineri auction
    AV Scudo d'oro 1697 Rome Mint
    Pope Innocenzo XII
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  17. dirty_brian

    dirty_brian Well-Known Member

    I was away on vacation for a few days
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  18. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Excuse me, I have to add my 1701 Stockholm Mint
    AV 1/2 Dukat
    Karl XII of Sweden e08994a9b6172224a075a38980157659.jpg
     
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  19. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

    On to 1696 - a Shilling with the C beneath the bust for Chester. For a short period at this time coins were minted with a variety of city marks including E for Edinburgh, N for Norwich, B for Bristol and y for York.
    1696C S 1.JPG 1696C S 2.JPG
     
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  20. semibovinian

    semibovinian Well-Known Member

    1696 -- Silesia, 3 kreuzer:

    1696_DE_Silesia_3kreuzer_1o_DPP_2015_10_21__0015_2.jpg 1696_DE_Silesia_3kreuzer_1r_DPP_2015_10_21__0016_2.jpg
     
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  21. Jimski

    Jimski Well-Known Member

    I recently put one of these “branch mint” coins on my Wish List. I was looking for info for my 1698 halfcrown post, when I ran across this very interesting story below.

    The mints that @PaddyB refers to in his post were operated from 1696 thru 1697 to supply coinage for “The Great Recoinage of William III”. The Great Recoinage, begun in 1696, brought about the demonetization of all hammered coinage by March 1698. (1) Circulating hammered coins of the time were commonly clipped. Clipping involved cutting silver from the edges of hammered coins then circulating the clipped coin at face and selling the clippings as bullion, or use it to counterfeit.
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    Hundreds of 16th Century coin clippings have been discovered in a Gloucestershire field. The 500 silver clippings, dubbed the Toenail Hoard, were unearthed by Gavin Warren using a metal detector in the Forest of Dean. (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-34779378)
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    The earliest clippings date from the 1560s to 1570s and the latest from 1645.


    Milled coins had been produced in the mints since Charles II’s coinage of 1662. The milled coinage included an anti-clipping feature, raised lettering completely around the edge of the coin (on crowns and halfcrowns) or milled (akin to reeded) edge (on shilling, and sixpence). The Great Coinage planned to remove all hammered coinage and replace it with the clip-proof milled coinage of the day.

    To provide the large number of coins needed, branch mints were established at Bristol, Chester, Exeter, Norwich, and York. Coins from the branch mints display a mint mark (B, C, E, N or Y) beneath the obverse bust. Coins with the branch mint marks can be found in the years 1696 and 1697.


    (1) The Growth of English Industry and Commerce, W Cunningham D. D., Cambridge at the University Press, pg 437,
     
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