[Game] Guess the portrait!

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Pavlos, Sep 26, 2019.

  1. Yorkshire

    Yorkshire Well-Known Member

    Yes!

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    CARTHAGE/SICILY-PUNIC Æ15 SNG Cop 1024
    OBVERSE: Head of Tanit left
    REVERSE: Galloping horse right
    4.59g, 15.6mm
    Struck at Carthage, 3d-4th Century BC
     
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  3. Roerbakmix

    Roerbakmix Well-Known Member

    Hurray! :)

    Okay, this coin has been posted before on this forum (but a long time ago).
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    It's actually two faces on the coin, but as I've not been successful in ID-ing the countermark myself, it would be a bit unfair to ask for that. (Perhaps bonus points if anyone succeeds in ID-ing both faces?).

    Weight 7.24 g, diameter: 20 mm

    A close-up of the countermark, for those interested:
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  4. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Dionysos. The counter mark appears to be veiled, but beyond that I don't have a guess.
    I'm pretty sure I'm right, so I will move the thread on with...
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  5. Pavlos

    Pavlos You pick out the big men. I'll make them brave!

    Is that the usurper Tryphon?
     
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  6. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    You got it! I mean I did recently do a thread on this short lived Rockstar ruler.
    So, hopefully that helped.
    Great game thread idea, btw.

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    Tryphon, Diodotus
    Antioch, 141 BCE, AE 18mm, 4.7g
    Obvs: Head of Tryphon right diademed.
    Revs: BAΣΙΛEΩΣ TPYФΩNOΣ AYTOKPATOPOΣ, Spiked Macedonian helmet. Grain to left
     
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  7. Pavlos

    Pavlos You pick out the big men. I'll make them brave!

    Thank you Ryro and nice coin. One of my main collecting area's is the Seleukid empire, so for me it was quite easy, but the portrait is distinct so I think quite difficult to recognize for the average ancient coin collector.

    Next:
    Who is this?
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  8. Ed Snible

    Ed Snible Well-Known Member

    Doug's question is interesting.

    How do we know @Pavlos 's original coin depicts Asklepios? Barclay Head wrote "According to one tradition Pergamum was colonized from Epidaurus under the leadership of the god Asklepios."

    The identification is a guess, based on the portrait and the names of any favored deities that have come down through written sources. If a new coin of Pergamum was discovered with a "ZEUS" inscription the identification would change.
     
  9. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    A best practice I've learned with Greeks: when I think to myself, "boy or girl?" It's usually Apollo.
    Is it Apollo?
     
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  10. Pavlos

    Pavlos You pick out the big men. I'll make them brave!

    It's not Apollo, but as a tip, its a "girl".
     
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  11. NormW

    NormW Student Of Coinology

    Athena?
     
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  12. Yorkshire

    Yorkshire Well-Known Member

    Artemis
     
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  13. Pavlos

    Pavlos You pick out the big men. I'll make them brave!

    It's pretty much the most important goddess :)
     
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  14. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Hmm. Hera??
     
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  15. bcuda

    bcuda El Ibérico loco

    Aphrodite ?
     
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  16. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    How do we define the most important goddess? As I recall, much of Greek mythology involves people making the wrong choice on this matter. If I were to say Hera was more important than Athena, I would not say very loudly. I wonder if you asked Zeus that one what he would say. Being king of the Gods, I suspect he would refuse to answer.
     
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  17. Yorkshire

    Yorkshire Well-Known Member

    Arethusa
     
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  18. Spaniard

    Spaniard Well-Known Member

  19. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

  20. bcuda

    bcuda El Ibérico loco

  21. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Nope.

    I think the portrait shown is very typical of the entity (a deity) because of the following attributes: close-cropped hair, no wreath or diadem, bushy protruberant beard (or prominent jaw... I guess we'd have to shave him to know :D), and a nose that comes straight off the forehead without a "dip" between the eyes.
     
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