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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 8203291, member: 19463"][MEDIA=youtube]ObS5xfsmmvc[/MEDIA]</p><p><br /></p><p>The new Aaron Berk podcast on YouTube (link above) has an extensive section on the Zoo coins of Gallienus which some of out CT family will enjoy if for no other reason than watching your coins scroll by when they talk about Coin Talk (in a positive manner). Most appealing to me was the mention of the Forvm article by the late Jim Phelps that includes a chart of what was in the <a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=Cunetio" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=Cunetio" rel="nofollow">Cunetio</a> Hoard broken down by gods. </p><p><a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=gallienus%20zoo" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=gallienus%20zoo" rel="nofollow">https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=gallienus zoo</a></p><p><br /></p><p>No resource is going to be perfect and that includes Coin Talk, Forvm and the increasing number of YouTube ventures. It is hard to overlook the shortcomings of each especially when they include name calling as discussed recently here on Coin Talk. We would be better off if we were all friends. </p><p><br /></p><p>If Mr. Phelps were alive, I would ask him if he might want to modify his section on the officinae to recognize what he lists as N (nu) as if it were a Greek letter in the series A through H (1-8) when I believe the idea was 'nona officia' or 9th workshop) as a dodge of the unlucky theta. Do you agree? </p><p><br /></p><p>I realize I have been misreading my Neptune-Hippocamp with N thinking the exergue was III. I have seen, and glossed over, several discussions on CT covering Zoo coins but missed the point of the N. I apologize to those of you who tried to tell me but were ignored. Comparing the exergual letter on my two coins to the N's in the legend, it is obvious that the III is an N. It gets worse: I pulled out my original 3x5 file card when I bought my 1995 coin and see I knew it was an N. On the card done in 2011 when I got the second one, I still find it listed as N. Obviously my confusion has been worsening in the last 11 years.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1437789[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1437790[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>That still does not explain why I had not considered WHY there was a N. I know there were twelve workshops with 10-12 done with Roman numerals and 1-8 in Greek but I do not recall even wondering why there was an N (let alone III) on that Hippocamp. That brings up the question as to whether those numbers 1-12 were even officinae at that time or was Mr. Berk correct in calling them 'control marks' which leaves open other possibilities that are beyond my level of study. As we get older it is natural to forget some things we once knew (including what we had for lunch yesterday?) but my interest in the way the mints dodged theta really should have made me wonder about that N. After all, I even posted a quiz page with a section on the number nine. Why did I not put an N hippocamp on that page? Question Group 6:</p><p><a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/quiz.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/quiz.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/quiz.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Make me feel worse and post links where you tried to explain this to me and I ignored you.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 8203291, member: 19463"][MEDIA=youtube]ObS5xfsmmvc[/MEDIA] The new Aaron Berk podcast on YouTube (link above) has an extensive section on the Zoo coins of Gallienus which some of out CT family will enjoy if for no other reason than watching your coins scroll by when they talk about Coin Talk (in a positive manner). Most appealing to me was the mention of the Forvm article by the late Jim Phelps that includes a chart of what was in the [URL='https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=Cunetio']Cunetio[/URL] Hoard broken down by gods. [URL]https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=gallienus%20zoo[/URL] No resource is going to be perfect and that includes Coin Talk, Forvm and the increasing number of YouTube ventures. It is hard to overlook the shortcomings of each especially when they include name calling as discussed recently here on Coin Talk. We would be better off if we were all friends. If Mr. Phelps were alive, I would ask him if he might want to modify his section on the officinae to recognize what he lists as N (nu) as if it were a Greek letter in the series A through H (1-8) when I believe the idea was 'nona officia' or 9th workshop) as a dodge of the unlucky theta. Do you agree? I realize I have been misreading my Neptune-Hippocamp with N thinking the exergue was III. I have seen, and glossed over, several discussions on CT covering Zoo coins but missed the point of the N. I apologize to those of you who tried to tell me but were ignored. Comparing the exergual letter on my two coins to the N's in the legend, it is obvious that the III is an N. It gets worse: I pulled out my original 3x5 file card when I bought my 1995 coin and see I knew it was an N. On the card done in 2011 when I got the second one, I still find it listed as N. Obviously my confusion has been worsening in the last 11 years. [ATTACH=full]1437789[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1437790[/ATTACH] That still does not explain why I had not considered WHY there was a N. I know there were twelve workshops with 10-12 done with Roman numerals and 1-8 in Greek but I do not recall even wondering why there was an N (let alone III) on that Hippocamp. That brings up the question as to whether those numbers 1-12 were even officinae at that time or was Mr. Berk correct in calling them 'control marks' which leaves open other possibilities that are beyond my level of study. As we get older it is natural to forget some things we once knew (including what we had for lunch yesterday?) but my interest in the way the mints dodged theta really should have made me wonder about that N. After all, I even posted a quiz page with a section on the number nine. Why did I not put an N hippocamp on that page? Question Group 6: [URL]https://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/quiz.html[/URL] Make me feel worse and post links where you tried to explain this to me and I ignored you.[/QUOTE]
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