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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2073719, member: 19463"]Lately I have been gathering more and more coins of Gallienus who has some interesting types. This one came today and made a point that makes me wonder if I should be more selective. I bought the coin from an image so I knew full well the situation but I have to wonder if the reason I won it is the competition realized that mint state is not necessarily a high grade. </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]384487[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>The coin has a reverse showing Luna as bringer of light (Lucifera) wearing a crescent moon on her head, carrying a torch and wearing billowing drapery. The billows are optional on this type. The coin is pretty fully silvered and has a number of hard spots, mostly brown or dark green, of raised patina on top of the silvering. These show much more plainly under magnification so I'll show a small section of the reverse image above cropped but not reduced. This is not a close up photo so it could be sharper but will suffice for the point it makes. These firmly attached but raised spots offer evidence that the underlying silver is original. </p><p>[ATTACH=full]384488[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Note on the highest part of the head, Luna has a slightly copper look where the silver wash has worn away. Otherwise the surface is silver. The rest of the body is flatly struck with no robe detail. The obverse portrait barely shows separation between the crown and head but is fully silvered. Save the tiny reddish spot on the head of Luna, the coin is unworn.</p><p><br /></p><p>So is the coin mint state? Not to me! To be called VF I would want to see some detail on the reverse figure and a bit more portrait crispness. How would the slabbers grade a coin like this? US TPG standards recognize that some unworn coins have weaker strikes (MS60) while others have better die detail (MS66+) but a little wear would make each coin AU. This coin left the dies in what I would call aVF. There are much worse examples. For comparison, at the bottom of this post is another mostly silvered type (Saturn) with full body detail and a portrait with a good ear. The OP coin should look like this! The range between the strongest and weakest strike on ancients is much greater than on moderns. How do you feel about such coins? Would you rather have this silvery one or a well struck (more detailed) but slightly worn VF that has lost its silver to time?</p><p>[ATTACH=full]384495[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2073719, member: 19463"]Lately I have been gathering more and more coins of Gallienus who has some interesting types. This one came today and made a point that makes me wonder if I should be more selective. I bought the coin from an image so I knew full well the situation but I have to wonder if the reason I won it is the competition realized that mint state is not necessarily a high grade. [ATTACH=full]384487[/ATTACH] The coin has a reverse showing Luna as bringer of light (Lucifera) wearing a crescent moon on her head, carrying a torch and wearing billowing drapery. The billows are optional on this type. The coin is pretty fully silvered and has a number of hard spots, mostly brown or dark green, of raised patina on top of the silvering. These show much more plainly under magnification so I'll show a small section of the reverse image above cropped but not reduced. This is not a close up photo so it could be sharper but will suffice for the point it makes. These firmly attached but raised spots offer evidence that the underlying silver is original. [ATTACH=full]384488[/ATTACH] Note on the highest part of the head, Luna has a slightly copper look where the silver wash has worn away. Otherwise the surface is silver. The rest of the body is flatly struck with no robe detail. The obverse portrait barely shows separation between the crown and head but is fully silvered. Save the tiny reddish spot on the head of Luna, the coin is unworn. So is the coin mint state? Not to me! To be called VF I would want to see some detail on the reverse figure and a bit more portrait crispness. How would the slabbers grade a coin like this? US TPG standards recognize that some unworn coins have weaker strikes (MS60) while others have better die detail (MS66+) but a little wear would make each coin AU. This coin left the dies in what I would call aVF. There are much worse examples. For comparison, at the bottom of this post is another mostly silvered type (Saturn) with full body detail and a portrait with a good ear. The OP coin should look like this! The range between the strongest and weakest strike on ancients is much greater than on moderns. How do you feel about such coins? Would you rather have this silvery one or a well struck (more detailed) but slightly worn VF that has lost its silver to time? [ATTACH=full]384495[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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