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<p>[QUOTE="Roman Collector, post: 3121406, member: 75937"]I think the source of confusion is that some of those participating in the thread do not seem to know that "radiate" means "coin where the emperor is wearing a radiate (spiky) crown." If the emperor is wearing a laurel wreath/crown, it's NOT a radiate. </p><p><br /></p><p>Looking through this thread, I see folles with a laureate bust being called radiates and I see people baffled as to why folles might be silvered. These misunderstandings might have been avoided had the term "radiate" been explicitly defined (for those who don't know) early in the thread. </p><p><br /></p><p>Diocletian pre-reform radiate. Note the spiky, radiate crown on the bust. Note the XXI in the exergue in addition to the officina marking between the figures on the reverse (gamma):</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]794309[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Here's one of Maximian from the same workshop of the same mint and with the same design. It is therefore, of course, pre-reform. It has much original silvering remaining:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]794317[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Maximian, pre-reform. Same mint but different workshop. You can't tell by looking at it that it used to be silvered, but it was; the XXI in the exergue says so:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]794316[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Now, compare this Diocletian <i><b>post-reform</b></i> radiate. Same CONCORDIA MILITVM reverse type. Emperor is wearing a spiky, radiate crown. Note the bigger portrait. Note the ABSENCE of XXI in the exergue. Note there is now a mint mark (eta, the first letter of the Greek spelling of Heraclea) before the workshop number (gamma) between the figures on the reverse. These issues were <i><b>no longer silvered</b></i>:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]794314[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>This one is a follis of Galerius. Because the follis denomination arose as a consequence of the currency reform, it is post-reform. But it is NOT a radiate, because the emperor wears a laurel crown, not a radiate crown. It is a different denomination. It was larger than a radiate and it <i><b>was</b></i> silvered: </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]794306[/ATTACH] </p><p>Galerius, A.D. 305-311.</p><p>Roman AE follis, 26.0 mm, 7.73 g, 12 h.</p><p>Heraclea mint, AD 310-311.</p><p>Obv: IMP C GAL VAL MAXIMIANVS P F AVG, laureate head right.</p><p>Rev: GENIO IMPERATORIS, Genius standing left, holding patera and cornucopia; */HTE Refs: RIC 48a; RCV 14514; Cohen 48.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Roman Collector, post: 3121406, member: 75937"]I think the source of confusion is that some of those participating in the thread do not seem to know that "radiate" means "coin where the emperor is wearing a radiate (spiky) crown." If the emperor is wearing a laurel wreath/crown, it's NOT a radiate. Looking through this thread, I see folles with a laureate bust being called radiates and I see people baffled as to why folles might be silvered. These misunderstandings might have been avoided had the term "radiate" been explicitly defined (for those who don't know) early in the thread. Diocletian pre-reform radiate. Note the spiky, radiate crown on the bust. Note the XXI in the exergue in addition to the officina marking between the figures on the reverse (gamma): [ATTACH=full]794309[/ATTACH] Here's one of Maximian from the same workshop of the same mint and with the same design. It is therefore, of course, pre-reform. It has much original silvering remaining: [ATTACH=full]794317[/ATTACH] Maximian, pre-reform. Same mint but different workshop. You can't tell by looking at it that it used to be silvered, but it was; the XXI in the exergue says so: [ATTACH=full]794316[/ATTACH] Now, compare this Diocletian [I][B]post-reform[/B][/I] radiate. Same CONCORDIA MILITVM reverse type. Emperor is wearing a spiky, radiate crown. Note the bigger portrait. Note the ABSENCE of XXI in the exergue. Note there is now a mint mark (eta, the first letter of the Greek spelling of Heraclea) before the workshop number (gamma) between the figures on the reverse. These issues were [I][B]no longer silvered[/B][/I]: [ATTACH=full]794314[/ATTACH] This one is a follis of Galerius. Because the follis denomination arose as a consequence of the currency reform, it is post-reform. But it is NOT a radiate, because the emperor wears a laurel crown, not a radiate crown. It is a different denomination. It was larger than a radiate and it [I][B]was[/B][/I] silvered: [ATTACH=full]794306[/ATTACH] Galerius, A.D. 305-311. Roman AE follis, 26.0 mm, 7.73 g, 12 h. Heraclea mint, AD 310-311. Obv: IMP C GAL VAL MAXIMIANVS P F AVG, laureate head right. Rev: GENIO IMPERATORIS, Genius standing left, holding patera and cornucopia; */HTE Refs: RIC 48a; RCV 14514; Cohen 48.[/QUOTE]
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