GAL VAL

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  1. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    Picked up a Galaria Valeria (the wife of Galerius) coin a couple months ago I never got around to posting, not a bad coin so I'll give it a quick post. Some slight hints of the original silvering left and a nice brown patina.

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    Galeria Valeria, AE follis, 305-311 AD


    O: Bust right, GALVAL ERIAAVG, R: Venus holding apple, VENERIV ICTRICI, ALE in ex. RIC 110. Alexandria mint. 24 mm, 6.6 g.


    Feel free to post your Gal Vals or other tetrach related chicks. (Are there other tetrach lady coins minted before Constantine??)
     
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  3. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Coins of Galeria Valeria don't have a variety of reverse types, to be sure, but the portrait style varies considerably from mint to mint and makes for an interesting study.


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    Galeria Valeria, AD 293(?)-311.
    Roman Æ Follis, 26 mm, 6.64 gm.
    Nicomedia mint, 308-310 CE.
    Obv: GAL VAL-ERIA AVG, diademed and draped bust right.
    Rev: VENERI VI-CTRICI CMH, Venus standing facing, head left, holding apple and drapery; in exergue, SMNA.
    Refs: RIC VI 57; Sear 14595.
     
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  4. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    Very nice, well centered with great eye appeal good pick up.
     
  5. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Cool, @chrsmat71 ! Great chocolate brown patina!

    Here is mine:

    I think my Venus is not holding an apple, rather half of a WATERMELON!

    GALERIA VALERIA
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    Galeria Valeria AE Follis
    Attribution:
    RIC VI 57 Nicomedia
    Date: 308-310 AD
    Obverse: GAL VAL-ERIA AVG, Diademed robed bust right
    Reverse: VENERI VI-CTRICI, CMH monogram, Venus standing left, holding apple , SMNΓ in exergue
    Size: 22.94mm
    Weight: 5.42 grams
     
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  6. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Agree. This one from Antioch adds an altar. That is a major variation for these.
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  7. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    And one from Cyzicus with a particularly uninspired portrait:
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    Cyzicus mint, A.D. 308-309
    Obv: GAL VAL-ERIA AVG
    Rev: VENERI V-ICTRICI - Venus, standing left, holding apple, raising drapery over left shoulder
    MKV in exergue; Δ in left field
    RIC 46
    26mm, 5.8g.
     
  8. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    He Chris,

    great looks :D
     
  9. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Here's mine. Alexandria mint. Yes, the portraits do vary considerably. Hard to tell what she really looked like.

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  10. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Same as yours.


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    Galeria Valeria
    AE Follis
    O: GAL VAL-ERIA AVG, diademed and draped bust right.
    R: VENERI V-ICTRICI, Venus standing facing, head left, holding up apple and raising drapery; K-Γ/P, ALE in exergue.
    Alexandria Mint
    23mm
    6.85g
    RIC VI 110
     
  11. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

  12. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

    A lot of varied portraits in this thread, here's another from Cyzicus:
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    Galeria Valeria, wife of Galerius. Æ Follis, Struck 308-310 AD
    Obv: GAL VAL-ERIA AVG, diademed and draped bust right
    Rev: VENERI V-ICTRICI, Venus standing facing, head left, holding up apple in right hand and raising drapery over shoulder with left, MKV in exergue
     
  13. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Very nice coin, I love the patina! My Alexandria has a somewhat unusual version of the hair:

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  14. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    That is a very nice coin.

    Here is a hairstyle from Serdica:

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    25 mm. 6.21 grams.
    Galeria Valeria
    VENERI V-ICRICI
    •SM•SD•
    ✳ in left field, A in right.
    RIC VI Serdica 41 "late 307-8"
     
  15. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    Let me preface this post by stating that I see absolutely no problems with any coins posted here. In fact, they are quite lovely. I do not have a Gal Val, so I would like to pick one up perhaps in the near future.

    But I’m fairly certain I have seen a counterfeit one of these on eBay. Does anyone know if this is a commonly counterfeited coin? Is this a coin type that one should exercise an extra measure of caution for? Or is that overstated?
     
  16. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    I don't know if these are fake more than other or not?? I did pick up a fake Galerius in a mixed Ebay lot.


    Thanks for sharing all your cool Gal Vals!
     
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  17. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    This eBay seller has no fewer than seven of them right now, each for about $30, which might not be remarkable given the condition. The metal looks particularly porous. If I were to get one, I would go through VCoins for an extra measure of peace of mind. But to be clear, I’m not casting any aspersions on this seller or these coins.

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  18. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Another Alexandrian example, with a somewhat manly portrait :

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    ROMAN EMPIRE, GALERIA VALERIA, follis RIC 110 Alexandria mint, 3rd officina, AD 308-310
    GAL VAL ERIA AVG, draped and diademed bust right
    VENERI V ICTRICI, Venus standing left, holding apple and raising her dress, K | P in lower field, Γ in right field, ALE at exergue
    8.46 gr
    Ref : RIC # 110, Cohen # 2 var, RCV # 14607 (250)


    And the one that it replaces, from Heraclea :

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    Galeria Valeria, Follis - Heraclea mint, 1st officina
    GAL VALERIA AVG, draped and diademed bust right
    VENERI VICTRICI, Venus standing left, HTA at exergue
    6.98 gr
    Galeria Valeria, follis, Ref : Cohen # 2,

    Q
     
  19. zenlib

    zenlib Member

    I am not sure if protocol says I should start a new thread for this, but it seemed logical to post a question where I was sure to get an answer. I think I should know the answer to my question but I don't so rather than being silent and being thought a fool, I shall open my mouth and remove all doubt. What does CHL mean/stand for on the obverse before Gal Valeria?
     
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  20. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    It does kinda look like CHL doesn't it? But it's actually GAL. So the full obverse legend is GAL VAL [space] ERIA AVG. There was actually no distinction between "C" and "G" in the latin alphabet until the 3rd c. BCE, and apparently they didn't care that much about it afterwards either. :D
     
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  21. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    CHL is actually GAL. G's often look like C's all over the empire, and many of the eastern mints had A's that look like H's.
     
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